Comments on: What do big wave surfers and us beta folks have in common? http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/06/what-do-big-wave-surfers-and-us-beta-folks-have-in-common/ shaping the future together Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:49:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Nokia Beta Labs blog » Getting press - part II http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/06/what-do-big-wave-surfers-and-us-beta-folks-have-in-common/#comment-3788 Nokia Beta Labs blog » Getting press - part II Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:01:07 +0000 http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/06/what-do-big-wave-surfers-and-us-beta-folks-have-in-common/#comment-3788 [...] apps like audiobooks. Or artists. Or race drivers. Or priests. Or war correspondents. People at the edges. People pushing the [...] […] apps like audiobooks. Or artists. Or race drivers. Or priests. Or war correspondents. People at the edges. People pushing the […]

]]> By: pb http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/06/what-do-big-wave-surfers-and-us-beta-folks-have-in-common/#comment-2630 pb Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:57:09 +0000 http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/06/what-do-big-wave-surfers-and-us-beta-folks-have-in-common/#comment-2630 "Wouldn’t using Beta Labs for testing betas of mainstream apps be a win-win, in the same way that it is for new apps???" No. It only makes sense if the 3 bloggers represent the target market. Most don't. So phone bloggers tell Nokia what they want to hear, which creates a feedback loop. You would be better beta testing with three random people in Helsinki - and Mr Hagel is laughing all the way to the bank. “Wouldn’t using Beta Labs for testing betas of mainstream apps be a win-win, in the same way that it is for new apps???”

No.

It only makes sense if the 3 bloggers represent the target market.

Most don’t. So phone bloggers tell Nokia what they want to hear, which creates a feedback loop.

You would be better beta testing with three random people in Helsinki - and Mr Hagel is laughing all the way to the bank.

]]> By: Tommi Vilkamo http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/06/what-do-big-wave-surfers-and-us-beta-folks-have-in-common/#comment-2429 Tommi Vilkamo Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:52:53 +0000 http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/06/what-do-big-wave-surfers-and-us-beta-folks-have-in-common/#comment-2429 Heh, did you read the news today Geoff? The Maps team wanted to give a 3-day preview for a couple of trusted bloggers, before this public Beta Labs launch. I think such procedure makes sense at least in major mainstream initiatives like Maps. Heh, did you read the news today Geoff?

The Maps team wanted to give a 3-day preview for a couple of trusted bloggers, before this public Beta Labs launch. I think such procedure makes sense at least in major mainstream initiatives like Maps.

]]> By: Geoff http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/06/what-do-big-wave-surfers-and-us-beta-folks-have-in-common/#comment-2402 Geoff Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:45:58 +0000 http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/06/what-do-big-wave-surfers-and-us-beta-folks-have-in-common/#comment-2402 I can't see anywhere for posting this comment, so I'll have to put it here. There's lots of publicity about Nokia Maps 2.0 being in beta. Why isn't it available for us to donwload and test here, then? Is there a need for Beta Labs to be better enbedded within Nokia's wider organisation - it seems like it. Wouldn't using Beta Labs for testing betas of mainstream apps be a win-win, in the same way that it is for new apps??? I can’t see anywhere for posting this comment, so I’ll have to put it here.
There’s lots of publicity about Nokia Maps 2.0 being in beta.
Why isn’t it available for us to donwload and test here, then?
Is there a need for Beta Labs to be better enbedded within Nokia’s wider organisation - it seems like it.
Wouldn’t using Beta Labs for testing betas of mainstream apps be a win-win, in the same way that it is for new apps???

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