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Firstly, I can't comment on the Maps 2.0 as I found out too late that I can't load the Beta on my E61! However, I was impressed by the screen shots, and listed improvements. The comments clarifying some things have made me doubt some of them. First, cost seems to be an issue (and no, I don't want to advertsing pop-ups to subsidise it!), but if a full map of Europe isn't available then that's a big no. (I have my doubts about the existing maps, as it couldn't find a route from the UK to Sweden!).

But one small point, Nokia: please don't use the term 'ZIP code' - that's a US-only acronym. Please use a generic 'postal code' or 'post code'.

I was hoping to get a new Nokia phone soon that would allow me to use Maps 2.0, but I'm not so sure now.

Chris

So where are the New Zealand navigation maps??? We're still left out! I got my new nokia n-series for NOTHING!

grrr...

Please, nokia maps team get navigation for New Zealand!

map 2.0 is very good,i love it! but some features could be better or are missing:

-when i choose the walk feature, most times there is not the possibility to walk through pedestrian streets, if the programm calculates the route it shows a longer way around the pedestrian zones, it should calculate the direct way
-walk feature (the feature i only use beacuse i have no car) Time to destination is not very exact (it would be great if it recalcs depending on the walking speed and stores the middle walking speed)
-there should be a description of the path (next streets to destination and so on) to choose....as a list or so
-there should be different driving or walking styles , walk fast, middle, slow
-voice commands for the walk feature would be also great
-would be great, if you could choose the way of calculating the route like fastest way, shortest way, directly way
-maybe a flag it function to store/save locations i pass
-maybe a possibility to store home/work

In the new noka maps 2.0 missing licens for Eastern europe

Did a quick drive test from work to home and everything worked nicely. Oke, occasional it crashes on the N95 classic, but not yet while driving. A longer test will happen this weekend, it'll show if the routing code has been improved.

@Jake[120]: "...would be free to use..." I think you've stumbled on the impediment there. Technically, the FM receiver in the phones may not be able to interpret TMC data. Practically, that'd be removing one more source of income for them. They charge for every little aspect of this application (and on a subscription basis, too)! Using basic navigation over the lifetime of this phone (~3 yrs?) costs more than the phone itself.

How can I uninstall nokia maps 2.0 from my N95 8G.The procedure mentioned above doesn't work

hey could some 1 please tell me if there is anyway to get the new 2.0 to work on the N73
if this app is for the N series then y does it not support N73
Please Help

Though Generally speaking Nokia Maps 2.0 is a pretty impressive application, including pretty neat UI features, there are quite a few things to be improved as well. For instance, speed, especially scrolling across the map (and it's not just loading the tiles, I mean smoothens of the UI more). Also I would wish, that Nokia would go trough Garmin's iQue Pocket PC application for reference, for instance, their "3D map" feature is really well implemented compared to Nokia's. For instance I don't need the clouds Nokia is giving on the upper part of the 3D view, but all the space on the screen is important.

Another thing, which could make Nokia Maps really stand out, would be inclusion of some, atleast some simple, topologymap features in detailed map views. It shouldn't be too hard, and make map much more usefull for a pedestrian use. Another cool idea, which I really would like to see, is one where I could search for other Nokia Maps users... or I could select certain Nokia Maps users to be shown at the map. All the hardware for such feature should be allready there, so why it's not included, it's so obious and cool?

I just bought the route66 new navigator 8 software DVD wit
western europe for 120E i think thats the better deal looking
also at nikias new price policy for the licencies

So the free "Find route" option is now gone? Or is it just very well hidden?

Also, does the new UI take more space from the map screen or am I just imagining things (hard to compare with the old version)?

Feature suggestion: put sat status and download counter on transparent overlays on the corners of the map space, and then pop out the search box only if I start typing.

I'm Kuala Lumpur, MY, installed @ e90. good looking features - cool:) Previous maps 1.2 - tried navigation for 3 days - working fine. Now with beta 2.0 - navi voice not support in MY. Please advice

e90 -when run communicatior - big screen - wrong button assigned - EXIT label at the bottom but button to press is TOP (for options) for YES/NO ke is OK

Have just downloaded Maps 2.0 Beta and when I re-download a city guide and enter the License Code it says 'License Code not Valid' (or something like that). Any suggestions cos I don't want to purchase it again!

Well done for an excellent product.
I successfully installed the update, and updated the maps and licence on my N95 with no problems.
I use the satnav feature a lot while driving so was pleased with the improvements made. The new Blocked function for recalculating a route is very useful, but for safer driving it should be directly mapped to a grid key and not put in a sub menu.
The satellite status indicator is much more useful than the previous versions as (I presume) it shows the number of satellites / fix quality.
I also tried the new Walk feature and found it useful - it would be good to merge this with the Sports Tracker application.
A 'must have' upgrade if you're an N95 owner.

"Nokia sees that location based experiences, such as mapping and navigation are to be a fundamental platform in mobile devices going forward."

Nokia should sort this out then.

I'm afraid it hasn't persuaded me to replace Google maps on the active standby shortcut, not by a long way. It's still too slow and the map is quite ugly, not nice to use at all.

Also why restrict "my location" to GPS? GPS rarely works, at least on N95. Google maps finds the location within a couple of seconds through the NW - accurate enough at least to save having to manually go to wherever you are at to seach for things.

> Is ANYONE from NOKIA actually reading this?

Yes. Quite a few, actually. Here's one reply straight from the horse's mouth:
http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/19/nokia-maps-20-beta-%e2%80%93-a...

This comments thread is mostly a feedback channel for Nokia, not a support channel. You can write bug reports either here, or to the feedback form: http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/maps/feedback

Anyway, I agree that we should improve the feedback channel. I guess we should take Bugzilla or something into use for serious bug reporting and tracking....

It is scandalous, I bought a brand new phone (E65) just half a year ago, and it is already too old to run this app. I really really hope that the final version will support it - otherwise I know I should never buy another phone by Nokia, because Nokia just does not care about existing customers.
And I event spent some Euros for navigation with the previous version of the maps!

Nice application....needs tweaking here and there.

Regarding TRAFFIC INFO, why not use the build in FM radio of most phones to get the TMC info that most navigation systems use, instead of this data heavy RTTI system you've implemented now.

A TMC option would be free to use and not dependable on downloading data.

/Jake

missing menu- not use offroad

and the alert for the POIS?
where is?!
Like the trafic camaras?
Is this possible?
You loose very much for the others GPS programs.
I don

MESSAGE TO MAPS 2.0 BLOGGERS - PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING.

PLEASE don't WASTE this opportunity to input into the development of Nokia Maps 2.0.

In particular, please READ the KNOWN ISSUES list and Nokia's FAQs, AND PREVIOUS POSTS before posting - and please, if its been said before, ask yourself whether its necessary to say it again. If you want your own post to be read, take the trouble first to read what others have already posted.

In particular:

1. PLEASE STOP POSTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE MAP DATA. The KNOWN ISSUES list says "New map data (upgrade via the new Map Loader) is also still in beta and, for example, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau are not drawn correctly." So please don't waste space in this blog continually complaining about it. Especially saying the same thing over and over again e.g. New Zealand, Pakistan etc. Enough already!

2. E90 users - there's clearly a big problem for you - but please don't keep posting the same complaints over and over again. I'm sorry that you people have got a raw deal, but these problems appear to be isolated to particular devices such as the E90. Others have got a usable, testable product in MAPS 2.0 Beta.

Having said this, it is NO CREDIT to Nokia developers that they have not yet made ONE SINGLE RESPONSE to this blog, more than a week after it was launched. If they had acknowledged the E90 issues in the blog, or in the "Known Issues", it would have saved a lot of wasted time, and given some reassurance that this blog is actually being read by Nokia. The current appearance is that it is not.

NOKIA Developers - do you have any interest in showing, even in the smallest way, that you ARE listening?????!

@jhgkjh - 1. This week was Mobile World Congress, and seeing as how Maps was launched there, I would guesstimate that a few of the team was on hand at the 4-day event, in a different country than their office.
2. 153 comments, but how many of them were A. E90 owners saying the softkeys are messed up or B. People asking when a version would be out for non-Feature Pack 1 devices (or ranting because it doesn't work on their N70)?
3. How many people who've downloaded the app realized they were downloading BETA software that is known and quickly admitted to have bugs?

Hi Tommi,

Sorry for the rant in 190 :-)
you guys do great work on the apps .. Thanks.

As most UK users have written, Its pretty much useless software only using 4 digits of the post code

1) Is there any reason that it does not use full 7 digit ?
2) is there any scope for traffic cameras poi (eitherr from nokia or 3rd party)?

KeithL : answer 191 ..
i have now "Unbranded" my phone using freely available tools on the lazyweb and upgraded the firmware to the latest EURO1 firmware and installed MAPS 2 and it works.

Following on from 59,91,153:
I've noticed a couple more bugs, as follows:
A serious bug for uk users whereby only the 1st 4 characters of the UK post code are used in the search. This means that postcode searches are so inaccurate as to be useless. The UK post code is the single most used and most useful search citerion in the UK, and it is very important that you provide full 7 character postcode searching, in order to have a competitive product in the UK, and to avoid having a lot of very disappointed UK users.
2. There is a bug that incorrectly estimates journey times in the UK, as much shorter than they can be in reality - at least in the Manchester area. In Maps 1, the estimated time was reassuringly generous, so that you were likely to arrive on time even if the traffic was quite bad. In Maps 2, you'd need to be travelling by helicopter, or at least seriously breaking the speed limits on a clear road with no traffic, in order to achieve most of the estimated journey times.

Hi Using the new beta application, look good but a lot of maps information is lost compared to version 1.0, for exampel there is no roads in central Belgrade in the new version.

When is the "sharp" 2.0 version exspected??

Further to my comments in #116

N95 8GB latest FW.

1. I really miss the fact that I cant scroll the map when I am navigating. I actually forgot how much I do this until a trip over the weekend. Why do I do it? If I am driving and I need a petrol station I generally scroll to the next petrol station (POI) to see if it

Darran@218,

The fw is just that one. Is there a specific thing how to update the software? ie. have to do something in some particular order?

Tommi, Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta is not working on Nokia E70 (e70-2, RM-24). When I tried to do the upgrade install on top of version 2.0 I got message that it couldn't upgrade. Then I removed the version 2.0 and did free install for v.3 beta. After install there is no picture for the icon in the programs folder. The placeholder is still there, just the label for "maps". Clicking on it - it doesn't start. Nothing happens. So I uninstalled and back to version 2.0 ...till this is fixed (and hopefully working on my little lovely friend E70). Thanks. -Polo-

i can't use "chinese" to search anything cos the key "1" is a shortcut button.

"Use the 1 key to change map modes (2D, 3D, Satellite, Hybrid)"

unable to install on 6120c, got update error.

N82 came bundled with 3 months of free navigation. After upgrading Maps 2.0 said I have a 3 DAY trial?!
I had tens of days left and the FAQ states I can get it from Options. I got no note "xxx-day license activated", I get "Update: Update completed".

-Did I just loose tens of days without warning?
-How can I see how many days there are left?

We cant find any pakistan maps .....i hope in this latest version of nokia maps ..... Nokia will give us some pakistan maps

hi , i have install it to my nokia n82 it works but menu works a lil bit slow

Tommi Vilkamo said:

> Note: this does *not* work on S60 3rd Edition devices, only the ones with Feature Pack 1.

Can you tell us if this beta will be made available on 3rd Ed initial release devices such as the E70?

And if not, will the shipping version be available on initial release devices, and if so, how long will we have to wait for the full release?

@levent:
I did not have to re-enter my 3-yr license. It was automatically accepted.

@Paul:
I am also missing the calculate route function. Will this come back in future versions?

@ Jan - looked at older posts seems others are missing too, it would be extremely disappointing if they pulled this!

@ James

Thanks mate, slightly over complicated compared to old maps though

Paul - no, I can't see an option to do that.

I do remember that option but never used it... I only got my phone on Saturday!

On E90:
- VERY slow on internal large screen (Google Maps is fast and smooth, but internal Nokia developers don't even come close...)
- reversed buttons (as mentioned in other posts)
- very small fonts = unreadable in car
- downloaded data counter cut in half, bottom half invisible
- somehow navigation does not work for Poland any more (it did in ver. 1) - you could post that info here, so I do not install software that breaks what worked before
- automatically activated 3-day trial without even asking me

To summarize - this seems like early alfa, not beta (never even tested on E90). VERY long way to go to even approach my TomTom on usability/interface/speed. Maybe on maps 5 this thing will be worth something...

In previous version maps for Macedonia and city of Skopje were detailed although outdated. New version has very few details for Skopje, Macedonia even whole Balkan peninsula.
When will satellite maps be available for pc download (not only for phone download)?

put back satellite status like as it was before.

i wanna choose which categories to show on map without searching like as it was before.

when im scrolling on the map, there is too much delay to show new areas when compared to old version in which there was no delay like this

I'd also like to add my voice to the requests for E65 support. It'll be a big disappointment if this phone is not supported when only a few months old...

Mark

is somebody for nokia reading this page?
And the answers?

E90 German version - Setup to run in English. LEft hand side of E90 - When I open the E90 up and navi is running. I press OPTIONS it wants to Exit, when I press EXIT the options come up!!

Ps. in addition, the FAQ document says: navigation is supported for more than 30 countries. Navigation licenses are available for the following regions:

Couple of niggles on N95-2 on Voda UK

Whilst in navigation if you press the red button to take you to the main menu (as if you want to make a phone call) then the navigation just quits - the work around I've found is that you have to press the menu key then red to get to the main screen.

Can't change options like metric or imperial units whilst navigating

Can't zoom out whilst navigation

No speed camera POIs

The biggest bug I can find is when not navigating if you press any of the arrow keys (ie to take a look at the wider area) then the screen stops following you so the little red dot which carries on following you just goes off the map...

Postcode navigation sucks as well!

For Hong Kong the language used is now Pin Yin. In previous versions (before 1.3) it was correct, i.e English conversion of Cantonese or localized English names. This applies to street names and many location names. Example, my steet was correctly shown before as 'To Yuen St.' which is how it is shown on local street signs, maps etc. The 1.3 and later Nokia maps now shows it as 'Tao Yuan Jie' which is the Pin Yin version. This makes the Nokia map virtually useless for local users and vistors since the names don't match the local convention.

One more comment. If you receive a call while navigating its no problem to answer the call but you don

I updated the beta version of nokia maps on the n82 and lost
my three months licence the phone displays i got the licence but when i will navigate i must purchage a licence can anyone help with this

... I mean I went back to version 1.0..... -polo-

As I purchased a 3 yr licence for navigation in release 1, I'm wondering if
a) the new version will be a free upgrade on my existing licence
b) if the navigation algorithms will be improved

I've had several horrible instances where the navigation routes were significantly sub-optimal such that a) my wife became very angy (not a good thing) and b) I abandoned the use of the system.

One such route would be Cambridge to Oxford which takes you down to the M25 around and up again. This is plainly not a sensible route.

Another is Cambridge to Kew. This route went right into the centre of London via some very specialised roads involving width restrictions etc.

I'm all in favour for new improved versions but can we get the basics right please. Cheers, Tom

Looking good, but missing the navigate to contact option. Correct?

Wow. Looks great, works fast. Really traffic problem =( Anyway, I love it =)

tried to install over the older version - the same error as in case of #2 (device is E61i)

Will Maps version 2.0 be available also for S60 3.0 phones or just from 3.1 onwards?

Hmmm ... Download Maps 2.0 no longer available. Has this been pulled already?

Just tried on my N95 :

on first start, it asked me if I want to connect to update license information (or something like that), I said yes. After a little time, it tells me "3 days trial activated". What ?!? I do NOT want start my trial now... the message didn't tell clearly that trial will be activated...

Then I tried to search for an adress, select "Walk to", then after some disclamers the map show up with the message "Calculating route"... I let it 10 minutes calculating route, but no results (yes, I had a GPS fix ;)

I'll retry later...

"Update error!" on my nokia 6120.

Just installed to my N82 and it looks like my 90 day navigation licence is lost. When I select connect to update license information, only option is to by new license.

Nice improvements...

The softkey labels are transposed on my E90's internal screen, however :-)

Is the server overloaded as I cant access the maps site?

All links to http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/maps end up on the main betalabs page...

Where to download?

wheres the download page?? it keeps taking me back to homepage!!!

Download is not possible anymore... Please fix!!

Unfortunately there have been difficulties in downloading Nokia Maps 2.0 beta from Nokia Beta Labs. We will make our best in order to provide the software for downloading as soon as possible.

Kind regards,
Nokia Maps Marketing team

update on 6120: it works if you use the correct file! (without Maps version)

I'm found 2 small(?) bugs:
1. On internal screen of Nokia E90 are mixed by places of the signature for soft buttons.
2. I'm set russian language for Nokia E90 interface. Then, if i'am choice "category" (Tools -> Settings -> Map -> Categories) my E90 reboot :(

Hi,
Just downloaded latest Maps and Maploader. Could Maploader please show which maps are loaded on the phone and allow selected deletion of maps. I travel Europe and the N95+4Gb card just isn't big enough.

Thanks

NEEEED PAKISTAN DETAILED MAPS

Oh, come on, why is this available only on FP1? Are the guys with the latest phones better at testing ? Not working on my E61 :(

I've found a bug here on my E90. When I switch application to internal display, key order is not right. I see Exit and Options on the right side of the display, but the key to use Exit does not correspond to it but to Options and viceversa.
When I use Nokia Maps with the internal display, the UI is too much slow.
* and # to use Zoom does not work properly with internal display. I see # is - and * is + but when I press * the zoom is - and when i press # nothing happens. * works without "Maiusc" and # doesn't work without "Maiusc". Anyway with Maiusc+# zoom is step-by-step, this means I have to press everytime I want to zoom Maiusc+#, so it's not continuative. Zoom-bar does not work too in communicator mode. GPS-Signal is still empty also when position is recognized, but I cannot navigate because it says "it's waiting for gps-signal".

I installed beta on N95 and all went o.k Maps for greece and statelite images all there but when I try to reinstall voice guidance, eastern europe is not on the menu any more... I had to unistall and put back the older version again even though I liked the new one....

Using n95 8gb

Problem when memory-use is set to 100% it will keep calculating route.
It will never start the route-planning
After set it back to 60% Maps 2.0 started routeplanning again
furthermore, it works great.

KeithL @ 215
to be honest i took the branding off just so i can test the newest apps, i dont think its fair that i have the phone and t-mobile are so far behind.
I WONT go back to the t-mobile branding and if i ever need warranty repair i will fight for it ;-)

Installed on the N95 8GB without problems, installation time 5 minutes, works very fast also inside the house, maps 2.0 looks good and mature. Try tomorrow the walk function.

YES ITS TRUE

=====>>>>>>>warning do not install the new nokia maps 2.0 beta

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I installed it and it took up 6.3 meg of phone memory even though I installed to memory card.

in addition you cannot remove it and their notes about deleting cities folder and installing older version doesn't work so there is not way to get the fffing thing off the phone.. had to reformat my phone memory..

Hi,

I am using n95 8GB and just install maps 2 beta seems to work fine. Regarding uninstall it seems to work fine too.

Here what i did:

1. Menu (switch button)
2. Application
3. Select Maps and Press C key
4. Just follow the instructions from there.

Or maybe it is just my lucky day :)

drop the search box, it takes up screen space. it should only display when you start to type. only briefly tested so far but when i did a search for my local pub (by name) it suggested a place with a similar name in Singapore, this was in the 'walk' result. thats probably about a 6000 km walk from where i am! it seems better in may ways so far but i really dont like the search box on display all the time.

Looks great!

My e90 inner display seems to be the buttons on the right in wrong order... (Finnish language).

I like a lot of sports tracker auto update... Better to be with this also...

: Sam

My 3 yr. license is not accepted with this. When I try to enter license code it says something like "License is already in use".
Can we clear the argument here?
Will we be able to use our prev. license with this? (I mean both drive & walk) or past license can only work as "walk" ?

By the way, several phones have the zoom buttons on the side. How come they don't work with Maps (to zoom, obviously)?

(I'm not suggesting replacing */#, but to work alongside them)

Well, call this software Alpha release since it does not deserve to be called beta. Shame Nokia. Navigating is unreliable, completely unreliable. Today I plotted a trip of about 200km. I could not get Nokia Maps to place me on a road. "Not on a road" was in my screen. Though it seemed the route was calculated. Driving about 2km and let Nokia Maps plot a route home was no problem. Recalculating to my destination 200km further on gave the same message: "Not on a road". Sorry, this navigation software is a complete buggy peace of crap. Not worth one Dollar.

I must agree with #59

The Maps 1.0 Interface is better to use and better to read. Please change this in final version or implement customizaton for the user interface.

In my Nokia E50 after update to beta 2.0 Nokia Maps doesn't run anymore. Also there's no icon. Hope they fix that in the final version. Also, can i use the beta maps with the 1.2 application?

Further comments following my earlier ones at#59 above:
1. A usability bug which is a very significant annoyance remains from Maps 1.0 - please will you fix it in 2.0 - as follows: When selecting Addresses from Contacts, on pressing search, it refuses to search unless a Country name is entered every time a selection is made, and has no default. The Country name is a long list and takes time to select. This is very tedious. Please change this so that if the country name is blank, it uses the last used, a default, or the last country detected via GPS.
2. On a related note, please add "From Contacts" to the main Search page, instead of under "Options" within the Address Search. There is room on the Search page, and the ability to search from contacts is an obvious plus for a phone-based Navigation product, over a dedicated product. So don't hide it away like an afterthought that takes more keypresses to use - put it there on the main search page.
3. There is a bug when using Routes, that crashes the N95 and causes it to reboot itself.
4. On the the "Route" page, the entry labelled "Drive is misleading. This in fact takes you to Route settings, and should be labelled accordingly.
5. Whereas the new GPS indicator now provides more signal strength information, it's hard to see, especially when driving and it's against a light map background with full signal strength. A much simpler, more informative and easier to read indicator would be to show the number of satellites, like Google Maps does. One digit is all that is needed.
6. Instead of having to press Options key to go to commonly used functions, like "Show Route", wouldn't it me much neater to offer also a shortcut of using the greeen phone button as a "Go" "Select" or "Yes" key, like for example you can in the Messages Application? This button could be very useful yet is surprisingly neglected by application developers.
7. The "Route Info" facility is a nice new addition, but:
a. On the N95 there is a highlighted rectangle over "Trip distance" (which can be moved using the cursor) but which is much too light coloured and makes it very hard to read to information it covers.
Also, the cursor movement is not properly implemented - you can only move using the right and left on the joystick and not up and down.
Further, the select button does nothing - you have to press "options" to access "Reset". Please change this so that pressing the select button brings up the question "Reset?". This would be much more intuitive.
b. It provides information which would be most useful at the end of the journey - BUT it is only available in drive mode, and as soon as you reach your destination, drive mode ends and the Route Info option is no longer available. Please will you change this so that the data from the last "Drive" is retained and can be accesses, and ideally saved or exported (maybe in CSV format) to another application such as a Spreadsheet or Expenses log.
8. The "Maps Tutorial" option on the N95 does nothing.
9. I'm pleased that other people have endorsed my comments in #59 above, especially the postcode issue in the Search box. I can't over-emphasise the importance of providing this for UK users. Google Maps does this - so I'm sure Nokia Maps developers can compete with Google's people, and provide the same functionality!
10. The convenient keyboard shortcuts only work in Drive mode, because when not in drive, it defaults to Search box input. Please provide an option to toggle the Aearch box open and closed, and when closed, provide the keyboard shortcuts that aren't dependent on Drive mode - for example 2d-3d toggle, day-night toggle, volume, Route Info (see 7 above) etc.

I love the way that new Nokia apps have this whole blackness to them some really great looking user interfaces. I've noticed this was also the case with the Internet Radio application which had taken elements such as the battery indicator to something quietly different.

On that note, is there a theme set available with these black ideas in? Transparencies / fonts included? My phone is N95v20 if that helps.

Looks great, but there are search problems, especially with UK postcodes: type in my neighbouring postcode and it shows on the map as being several miles away (which it isn't).
Also, where's the Start Simulation button?
After testing this beta version, went to Applications on the N95 and the original Nokia Maps was there, saying it had not been installed. When I installed it I got the original version back, thank goodness. Will wait until all the issues have been fixed, me things!

When I use the "*" and "#" to zoom, it does not zoom just one step, but to the closest/most far position. Tried it on n82.
/Anders

I love it, and thanks for your ongoing development work.

The only bug I've found is that when the displayed map is my home in Hong Kong and I search for "airport", the results under "Walk" and "Drive" do not show Hong Kong Airport, but instead show airports in Thailand and Taiwan!

Also, when the displayed map is a hotel in Nuremburg (where I'm going next month), and I search for "airport", it does not show Nuremburg airport, only Munich.

hello,

when comes a version vor E65? (i have the lates SW 2.0633.65.01) but this doesen't work.
thx

Again following 59, 91, 153 and 176 above:
1. Unfortunately there are reliability issues when using this with the N95. Sometimes the program shuts down unexpectedly when setting up a route, and most inconveniently it sometimes reboots the phone while navigating.
2. It does have quite serious problems at times when calculating routes, for example calculation of a route near my home in the UK comes out as follows:
Economical: 13.6 miles, 20 minutes; Shortest: 9.7 miles, 21 minutes; Fastest: 16 miles 22 minutes.
What do we make of that! "Economical" is faster than "Fastest", "Fastest" takes longer than either of the other two, and "Shortest" is so much shorter than "Fastest" that even if it were to take slightly longer than "Fastest", it might still be the best route.
So:
a: The calculations are obviously faulty or unreliable at the moment, and
b. This highlights the need for some improved intelligence about types of route when calculating. Either Maps 2.0 needs to inform you of the distance and time for all three options whenever you calculate a journey so that you can then choose the best compromise (my favoured solution) for that particular route, OR it needs some fuzzy logic to make a better choice of the best route so that it doesn't for example send you on a journey that is twice as long in distance for the sake of being one minute shorter in predicted time.
P.S. 1. I know I've said it before, but the fact that Maps 2.0 currently only recognises the first 4 character of the UK postcode makes Maps 2.0 almost unusable in the UK. It's exteremely frustrating to put in a full postcode that should pinpoint a location, and be given a location that is maybe two miles away! PLEASE fix this urgently, AND include the full 7 digit UK Post Code in the "one-box" search - which doesn't recignise UK post codes at all at present - so for UK users isn't a one-box search.
2. Also, again I've said it before, but as there's no reason for people to put a country name in their contacts for each person (unless the person isn't in the user's home country), MAPS really does need to assume a default when searching "From Contacts". Currently it refuses to search until you've entered a country every time, which is very tedious and completely unnecessary.

WE WANT NEW ZEALAND DETAILED MAPS + NAVIGATION!

For Gods sake, we're smaller than australia and they still get full nav and detailed maps!!

why the map satelite is not inserted in the nokia maps 2.0.
is very expensive to download for the operator.
The defenition of the image is too low.
is this soo dificult to incrase the images of satelite in the download for the maps.
I hope you think about that, because the money to paid is for the operator we use.
thanks.

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Hi team - please give us an update on when we can expect to see decent maps for New Zealand?

thanks,
Marty.

I've used it now for 3 days on my Nokia N95 classic coupled to a Garmin GPS 10.and these are my findings:

Installed fine and downloaded and installed the maps for the middle east without any difficulty.
I like the interface, i find it clear and informative.

What i really don't like is the fact that when navigating it zooms in too close so i can actually see on the map what the next turning is. What i would really like to see is auto zoom to allow the zoom level to automatically change to allow me to see my current position and the next turn, but still allowing me to manually override the zoom level.

It is still not possible to set the map to show direction up it will still only show north up unless you have set a route.

Some of the instructions are a bit bizarre. In particular the instruction 'at the next possibility turn left' Why not just say take the next left?

It would also be great if as well as telling you which turn to take it tells you a sign post direction. e.g. take the third exit signposted Airport.

When you purchase the navigation option in the Middle East it still does not show you correctly what currency you are being charged in.

Hi, when is the offical Nokia Maps 2.0 being released ??...and is it then possible to download it to my N95 8GB ??

it worked just 1 day when i downloaded it and that's it.. now the maps cant find any satelites... left for the night under 45 degree next to the window as it supposed to be and still nothing.. tried in different places for different time..the same :(

N95 8gb
last FW

I was quite disappointed when I bought it recently only to find that New Zealand maps were severly incomplete, it was one of the reasons I purchased the phone. The NZ nokia website doesn't even tell you this.

Are the Bahama Islands map available for 2.0? Don't see anything for the Carribean or Bahamas.

Question: When I use Nokia Maps 2.0 and I have an active internet (3G) connection, if I lookup a new place, it seems to be downloading the latest map. Is this what's actually happening? If so, fantastic, but does this mean we no longer need to download maps using Nokia Map Loader? Also, are maps downloaded "live" retained on the SD card for future reference?

Thanks again guys for a terrific product!

I installed it on the N73 by mistake but now cannot get the old nokia maps back on? have tried to delete all references to it but it must be hidden somewhere as when i try to install the maps 1.2 insays it cannot as 2.0 is installed. please help as i would like to go back

james

I agree with previous posts about the search field always on the screen (when you need to search a new place I don't think to be boring using Options, Search).
I would prefer, instead of the useless search filed, the scale always on the screen (that one that appears when you change the zoom). I think this could help to estimate distances at a glance (and doesn't take to much space on the screen or could be overimpressed on the map).

I also agree with comments about the very small font used for the road names. Even if you zoom in, the name is always too small.

Nice the new Route option with more stages.

I use the N95. Firmware 20.0.015. I upgraded Nokia maps from 1.0 to Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta. All installed fine, but found when I attempted to use the Navigation feature it would not recognise my license that I have purchased for maps 1.0 (3 year license)

I attempted to contact Nokia Support and have had no response what so ever.

i then turened to Openbit (who license Nokia maps)on support@openbit.com.

Here is the response from openbit:

Unfortunately your license code cannot be registered on Maps 2.0 yet, since it is a beta version. If this happens, i can only advice you to downgrade Maps, and re-register your existing license on it(can be downloaded here: http://europe.nokia.com/A4509291), and await for the final version of Maps 2.0 to be released(your license will register with it).

I downgraded back to Nokia maps 1.0. Had to request the license code again (From Openbit) but at least im back up and running.

I will stear well clear of Noki maps until its offical release.

I hope this has answered some of your questions.

PLUS I think the search on 4 digit post codes is good enough for any sat nav system. Nokia, you really need to address this.

Nokia, Please you have Australia. What about the little country next to it. New Zealand detailed maps please. I brought this N95 for its GPS to find that maps are rubbish! Very incomplete, its useless.

Full New Zealand GPS maps please!!!!

1. Please read the information provided before posting! For example clear instructions are given about how to uninstall.
2. This beta and associated blog are to help Nokia share their testing process with users to provide a better product. Can we keep the blog on-topic and focussed on that purpose please, and can people please keep their comments constructive rather than bad-tempered.

P.S. The search feld disappears when navigating (i.e. in "Drive" or "walk" mode. I find it absurd to describe the search box as "useless". It is a central part of the product functionality.

Hey svahili we wan't NK 2.0 on N73

Oh dear, what a mess.The search option takes up too much screen, even on a big screen like N95 8GB. There is no option that i can find to remove POI's like post offices etc. Too cluttered. And why have the constant reminder on screen of which keys zoom in and out? I think we can remember.

Following on from my comments at 59 and 91 above:

In Favourites "Places" does not remember the sort order setting, and defaults to "By distance". This is the least useful setting, It makes it hard to find the location I'm looking for as they move around the list depending on where I am. Also why would I want mostly to go to my nearest places?? A-Z is afar more useful sort order (as Maps 1.0 worked), that way the order stays the same and you can make sure frequently used places are near the top, by changing their name to put a number at the start.
So please:
a. Make it remember the sort order - whatever was last used.
b. On the Favourites page there's lots of unused space - use it to allow the user to add some quick "speed dial" shortcuts like "Home", "Work" etc, right there on the favourites page, so that these can be selected quickly with minimal key-presses.

Also, for phones that have Voice commands, please enable this inteface for MAPS 2.0. It should be easy to do, as the capability is already there in the phone's firmware, and it would add a lot of convenience to be able to give a voice command to select say "Home" or "Drive Home". Rival products do this.

One annoyance is that there's no longer any quick way to find out how long a jourmey would take when indoors where GPS won't operate. Going into "Routes" is a lot more long winded. Please provide an option when in DRIVE mode, to select the start point, for when there's no GPS signal, to provide a quick way to get an summary of the time and distance for a journey.

Finally, I get a lot more "Not on a Road" messages now - where it refuses to calculate a journey because I'm in a car park. Then when I get to the road, I have to wait for it to calculate before I know which way to turn - not good, especially if there are cars behind me! Maps 1.0 was better in this respect - it calculated from the nearest road, and very rarely said "not on a road". Please restore this way of working. (Afterthought - I suppose this might be a maps data issue).

P.S. I agree with previous posts that the "Walk" option needs to recognise walking rights of way, for example across squares and through parks. Without this, it's of limited value and a bit of a gimmick - which would be a shame, as it's an obvious use for phone-based navigation.

Following on from my comment above in 153, I'm very glad to see that Nokia Develops HAVE now responded, very positively, here: http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/tag/maps/

I have been using it constantly in Mexico, and it has worked great. I believe it is a good upgrade over the previous version, just think that the internal screen of the E90 is not used to it's fullest.

I also believe that the feature to have the route in text only for navigation was great to have. I hope that makes it to the final release.

Another small issue that has happened in real use situations is that I've pressed the "hang up" button by accident, and maybe it is a good idea to change that. It is not too convenient to be lost and then press that accidentally.

And finally I second post 158

I keep getting 'connection to the map server has been interrupted. Make sure your internet connection is working or try again later'!! This is using Map Loader v1.3!

people in desperate need of pakistan, i have filed a requested maps for that country of 7 major cities and known towns and villages, they said they already have enough complains, the next full version of maps will have pakistan in it.

Hi, I did used and download nokia map 2 beta, and used it on my 6110 navigator in egypt-alexandria.
I bought a licence for navigation for a month to be able to try the new beta release, it works fine on my 6110 navigator very good job since it is almost the only digitized map for cairo and alexandria, but i do have some important comments:
in some instances the program show the right route and put the right arow on the main roade right but the uper left corner arow with the navigation sound give the other direction, what i mean is the map show the right direction to turn wright but the sound with the left upper cornner arow tels you to go to the left !
Also the software missing the ability of putting a way point, ie if you go off the main roador if the roade does not exist on the map but physically it do exist in reality I should be able to put a way point so i can add to the mape a new route or street.
but i am happy so far with the beta realease but off course i am expecting more in the final one.
One more thing would not you think that nokia should not charge money for the beta release navigation coz it should be available for more person to try and test for the sake of thier feed back to improve the full release one!!!!

As mentioned by #14:

Lately when I try to use the drive function with my active 1 month subscription all I get is "Calculating Route". I even tried to get it to give me directions to drive straight down the street a few houses yet it still just sat there trying to calculate the route.

Is there a fix for this isse?

Can't get the Map Loader to work at all (STILL)!!!
I would've thought that a new iteration of software would have fixed this issue that has plagued many a N95 user!

I got the N95 for two things..... Camera and GPS.

I am now left with a half arsed phone cos the GPS has packed up!

I should've never bothered... More trouble than its worth!

i only used the nokia update tool to update my firmware

Hi!

This new version of the Nokia Maps is supperb! I have not found any issue, although a heavy use with Brazil Maps. Great work!

I just have one wish, which seems very, very useful: disable the standby screen saver while navigating. On day time, there is no need for the backlight, but the screen saver keeps coming. We have to keep pressing buttons every minute...

This is utter crap!!! No not the beta 2 version, it seems great but... after upgrading to the beta license I found that my navigation licence in Thailand was gone. Apparently this is not (yet?) included in the beta 2 version. Fair enough, but what certainly isn't is that there is no way in Hell or The Far Side of the Moon that I can go back to version 1.0 of Nokia Maps. I've tried every uninstall instruction found, no go... And now Nokia maps won't even start, so I'm left without the GPS. Pretty please with sugar on top of it Nokia: If you're going to hand out beta app, please provide a clear and safe method of uninstalling them.

1)zoom out bug while in navigation mode. leaves user unable to overview and verify route
2)doesnt show overview of the calculated route
3)add option to snap on to certain point,turn, or between two selected points of the route and ask application to find alternative route
4)add ability to preplan ur route and edit it if need be. then initiate when required
5)no iternet connection warning is invasive when driving and should be replaced with a unique tone and symbol instead
6)menu tho intuitive, is confusing and requires user to become familiar with the menu rather than human logic to find the desired action
7)unability for user to be involved in over-rideing and makeing changes to the calculated route is the biggest laking feature.
8)search box is unnessary and visually dominating, key assigning it is a better option
9)add ablity to place a temporary and permanate blocked road ahead marker at any desired point on the map. (this means the application can also learn off the user when calculating routes).
10)pc application to upload routes and allow it to be edited.
11)roads, bridges, water obstacles change constanly and map information never will never be 100% correct. enpower users with the ability to make an over-lay change to the map. (similar to google maps overlays). if nokia could collect this information, it could be possible to sell this information back to the local map provider.
12)add option to leave a bread crumb trail.
13)remember this is a visual and heard application and should be gearded more towards a set then forget perspective. route calculation outcomes are very questionable.

Anyone help, I installed the Nokia Maps 2.0 beta, but since I've updated the firmware to the latest version, Nokia maps gets to 90% then drops back to the main menu page. IF I remove the memory card, it loads the nokia maps, but its the old version again. IF I try to re-install the Nokia maps v2 beta, it always says 'file corrupted' (seems to say that when I try to install anything downloaded off the nokia sites just lately). Anyone know just how to remedy the problem, I cant even totally remove the Maps app by pressing the 'c' key when in the main menu.

Problem here: After installing Maps2 drive-to and walk-to in Thailand just tell me "Not available for this region". I cannot go back to Maps1, which - by the way - has a much better UI :-(

Anon, it's true, in Drive or Walk mode the search box disappears, but why to keep it ALWAYS on in Map mode?
I agree with post 61: it should appear only when you start typing or press the joystick (for instance to add location to a route).
Other comments about the search box are 40 in this blog and 63 in http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/19/nokia-maps-20-beta-%e2%80%93-a....
The key word of my comment is ALWAYS: I would prefer the scale always overimpressed on the map (in transparent mode like Viamichelin or Maporama) and the search box appearing ONLY when you press the joystick or start typing.
In this case, I agree with you, the search box is an improvement, in the other cases, in my opinion, is useless and waste about 8% of the screen.
I (and I don't think me only) use maps, for instance if I want to know where is a city or a shop, without interest to a route to get there.

I appreciate very much this new version (not at the first impact indeed) and particularly: stepovers in route, saving routes, walk mode, GPS signal strenght.
I think the menu could be better organized, but this opinion may be due to the lack of a user manual and the consequent self-discovery of features and paths to accomplish a task.

Why do you not support early adopters who bought the n93?
A major application like Nokia Maps should work on the n93, or owners will consider other brands when they buy a new phone. I use an older version with a lot of bugs, and I can't update it, I get "update error" when I try. I paid for a 3 years subscription, and what I got is a beta, erronous version of Nokia Maps, which I downloaded at maps2go It says c 1.1 wk23b04 Openbit.

Beta 2 a bit disappointing as Tools/Settings/Internet will crash my e90 EVERY time. Which means I can't test half the features.

It's really really good but you can tell it's not finnished.

I have used this on a 140Mile journey and it's really good in that way but then it decided to cut out when i was near my destination, very annoying as i had to turn the phone on and off again because it crashed.

some really cool new features though and i cant wait for the finnished article

pouves vous m'envoier le tout en lingue francaise merci

Please bring back the "calculate route" option together with "track on map" -
We, early adopters, paid more than enough to be able to navigate (even without voice guidance) without having to pay extra just for wanting to get from point A to point B.
If Nokia is really serious about selling the N95 & N82 as real navigation devices they should offer navigation for free (with free voice guidance, free traffic info, free city tour guides and all the other stuff that you currently want to charge us just so you can increase your "ARPU"). We paid $600 for our "multimedia computers" don't force us to pay extra $100 just so we can see how to get from New York to Boston.

why?

1. Overall comment: the new interface seems much more complex and slower to use than than Maps 1.0. Having three soft buttons just adds to the complexity rather than simplifying it.

2. Its hard to understand the context behind the way the menus change, as there seem to be different modes that all look the same (e.g. in the show route mode there is no 'simulation' option on the centre soft button menu, but after pressing the 'back' button, with no obvious change to the display, the 'simulation' option is becomes available with several other options).

3. Basic functionality such as route planning is much harder to find and use, and the menu path to actually find it is obscure. In fact I wouldn't have found it without the instructions given in post #70, not realising that it is under the 'Add =' menu option.

4. There are some strange things when using a contact as a search start point. These may have been there in Maps 1.0, but now seem to be worse.
Examples (all Australian):
- Street names that consist of more than one word get truncated (e.g. 'Brie Brie Cresent' becomes 'Brie' which can't be found)
- Country name from a Contact is sometimes not recognised ("Invalid Country") and needs be reselected from the drop down list (e.g. 'Australia' was in my contact but was regarded as an error, but selecting 'Australia' from the country list was just fine...)
- State names as standard abbreviations (e.g. WA for Western Australia) will result in a search failure. Need to explicitly select the full state name from the drop down list each and every time.

5. Although the new maps are better, navigation itself seems little improved. The system plans weird routes or routes that are just plain wrong. A route from my house to another relative on the other side of town takes a winding suburban path that I would never have considered over the more direct routes available. As a customer I would rather that the basic navigation works tolerably well rather than see lots of bells and whistles.

6. I don't know whether this happens in the paid navigation, but in the 'show route' and 'simulation' modes, the system will occasionally miss a change of direction at a way point and continue straight on in the wrong direction. For example, the directions said turn left off a highway, but the screen just kept going straight ahead. I have to manual press the down cursor to bring it back to the way point, using the left or right cursor to take the position marker off course, return to the way point and then press the up cursor (go forward) to get on track again.

7. Australian street numbering seems to have been improved but is still off a bit. When I show the N95 mapping to friends or family, I'm a walking advertisement for Tom Tom, NavMan or Garmin because of inaccuracies in the mapping.

The 2.0 beta looks promising.

+ The maps looks better
+ the walk navigation is nice

- I should be possible to select which poi categories you want to see when navigating (in walk mode). Now all categories are shown. In Amsterdam centre this means that you can hardly see the map cause it is covered with zo many poi icons.
- Should be able to turn the automatic orientation of when navigating. When walking with the phone in hand it keeps jumping from portait to landscape & back. Most of the time it then gets stuck in landscape mode (which I don not want) and I cannot get it back to portrait anymore.

Keep up the good work and I hope you will read and use some of the good suggestions that are placed in all comments from the users.

The satellite maps are downloaded over the air and are saved automatically. Next time you start Maps the satellite maps will be there, no need to download them again.

When i close the aplication the program doesent save anything
Next time i start the program the satellite maps are not there
do you guys have any idea

n82
i did not download the fresh installation
i downloaded the one with the map program already installed

I keep getting this error:
"application closed: PosServer KERN-EXEC 3"

Can't uninstall either... please help...

All,
I have had Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta install on my N95 since it was made availaible for download, working fine until just this week , now when I try to open it, I get a "Cannot open application. Install latest version from nokia.com/maps" message. I have tried to reinstall several times but to no avail....any suggestions?
Thanks.
dw

Hi

I am looking for a GPS map that supports a "bread crumb trail" for hikers/off road use/mountain biking?
Needed for Nokia 6110 in South Africa.

Regards
Mark

Hi there, just to say: Tremendous JOB you're doing great guys.
but as it is a beta version, i found the main issue that i disliked the most is that we lost numerous already poor detailed maps such as Morocco maps, worst than the first version, some city have simply disapear! i hope that it was only a beta issue and it will be fixed when "graduate". also i was wondering if there is a way to add manually maps customized such as Garmin or at least being able to choose between NAVTAQ and TELEATLAS.

Many thanks!

Hope this is still being monitored but I think I've found the solution to the problem with the UK Post Codes not being properly recognised in a search.

If you wish to enter "W1A 1AA" then you have to enter it as "W1A1AA" for the search to go ahead. Once you have removed that space between the first and second groups then the search works perfectly. This shouldn't be a massive change for Nokia but for the moment at least we know how to get around it.

I forgot.
Cool stuff to see the satelite and hybrid. This should be included in the nokia map loader in the future.
I use in Sao Paulo - Brazil, and i am not seeing any problem with the map.

Congrats Nokia

It would be a good feature to back up /export/import favourites history etc for when the phone gets reset and the maps need reinstalling. Plus it would be good to send individual locations from favourites by sms to someone else and they can import them, say my home address, they would import it and navigate to it. Or send current location to a person ..how useful would that be :)

Hey Guys,

Can anyone comment if it's likely this will eventually be ported to S60 r2 devices like the N70?

Otherwise any hacks to upgrade a N70 to R3 or are there fundamental things missing from the hw?

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Can only work with version 1 with my E61i. Will the E61i be supported in the future?

Nokia e65 is a business class phone, but no software updates like Maps 2.0 or SD HC support .... :(

I have a N95 classic with a 4GB. I want to update to Maps 2.0 beta. I have concerns for my current maploader v1.3since it cannot be used as it always tells : error, sorry has to close program on my PC/XP windows and using PC Suite 6.86
Previously I can download maps with Maploader v1.0. Try to reinstall Maploader1.0, but same problem/error appears on the screen. For the Maps 2.0 beta, is there a special newer maploader than this v1.3?
Look forward to your advice.
fred

Grant Gilbert

Installed original beta 2 and then updated to later version on May 16 without problem. Agree with others about how confusing the activation of the 3 day free trial of navigation/routing was - lost out like others.

Still can't find the equivalent of the navigation option from Maps 1 where a compass was shown with the location of the destination shown and helped driver find location (all for free - perhaps why it has gone!)

Noticed that purchase option of 1 day for

Yeah ... it refreshed maps but wonder satellite maps can be downloaded to handset to use as hybrid mode navigation . Thx lot

When would be able to activate the navigation in Morocco??

One last thing. Whilst navigating would it be possible to have the option to "Go Online". It appears you can only do this from the tools menu whilst not navigating.

I think someone else said this: we need a solid and functional way to send positions to other people. It doesn't even work over Bluetooth or IR, from N95 to N95.

With this, it would be much more functional.