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Any idea why the maps app shuts itself down, when I try to use the navigation? What I do is: search for a place-> use the navigate to or add to route-> then calculate route->then start navigation or whatever, and then it says that I have to say yes to the maps conditions and then the "drive & walk" part starts, so I try to choose an area, and then it just shuts down.

Firstly, I can't comment on the Maps 2.0 as I found out too late that I can't load the Beta on my E61! However, I was impressed by the screen shots, and listed improvements. The comments clarifying some things have made me doubt some of them. First, cost seems to be an issue (and no, I don't want to advertsing pop-ups to subsidise it!), but if a full map of Europe isn't available then that's a big no. (I have my doubts about the existing maps, as it couldn't find a route from the UK to Sweden!).

But one small point, Nokia: please don't use the term 'ZIP code' - that's a US-only acronym. Please use a generic 'postal code' or 'post code'.

I was hoping to get a new Nokia phone soon that would allow me to use Maps 2.0, but I'm not so sure now.

Chris

Hey people, does maps 2.0 Work with 6110. It goes to install on the phone then does nothing. Not a thing!

So where are the New Zealand navigation maps??? We're still left out! I got my new nokia n-series for NOTHING!

grrr...

Please, nokia maps team get navigation for New Zealand!

I would like to see an option to choose the data connection every time the app starts (as is possible in other apps like the browser), as depending on where I am I want to choose between WIFI or GPRS connections. At the moment this means going into the settings each time.

map 2.0 is very good,i love it! but some features could be better or are missing:

-when i choose the walk feature, most times there is not the possibility to walk through pedestrian streets, if the programm calculates the route it shows a longer way around the pedestrian zones, it should calculate the direct way
-walk feature (the feature i only use beacuse i have no car) Time to destination is not very exact (it would be great if it recalcs depending on the walking speed and stores the middle walking speed)
-there should be a description of the path (next streets to destination and so on) to choose....as a list or so
-there should be different driving or walking styles , walk fast, middle, slow
-voice commands for the walk feature would be also great
-would be great, if you could choose the way of calculating the route like fastest way, shortest way, directly way
-maybe a flag it function to store/save locations i pass
-maybe a possibility to store home/work

in new nokiamaps 2.0 missin licens for easterneurope

In the new noka maps 2.0 missing licens for Eastern europe

in Finnish E90 some options( valinnat) are in Finnsh and other in English. Typical Nokia finnengelska.
Search, Favourites, Oma sijainti, Karttatila, Liikenne tiedot, Työkalut

what is the text below the gps indicator? is it even menat to be readeble.

as written in earlier postings by E90-users; the texts and the buttoms inside are wrongly: Buttom withOptions (valinnat) is cancel (poistu).

with e90 and bigger inside screen you can zoom with shifs; right (+) and left (-)

its seems that the old proglem is back; takes loooooong time to be connected with satelites. is there any network helps with this maps 2. phones firmware is the newest one.

Did a quick drive test from work to home and everything worked nicely. Oke, occasional it crashes on the N95 classic, but not yet while driving. A longer test will happen this weekend, it'll show if the routing code has been improved.

>i tried MAPS 2 on my nokia n95 (t-mobile uk) and everytime i >tried to use navigate (and i do have the navigation option >paid for) the software crashed back to the home screen.

Maps 2 requires requires firmware version 20.0.015. That isn't available for UK T-Mobile phones, despite the fact that it was released over 3 months ago. You must be running Maps 2 on the old version of the firmware.

I'd encourage you and all other UK T-Mobile users to get in touch with T-Mobile and tell them to get this problem sorted out. You can contact them here: http://www.mobile-phones.co.uk/contact-us.htm

I contacted them myself and was told that discussions between Nokia and T-Mobile are "ongoing" and that it could be "quite some time" before the new version of the firmware is released.

Both Nokia and T-Mobile need to make a public statement on this and let their users know what is going on.

@Jake[120]: "...would be free to use..." I think you've stumbled on the impediment there. Technically, the FM receiver in the phones may not be able to interpret TMC data. Practically, that'd be removing one more source of income for them. They charge for every little aspect of this application (and on a subscription basis, too)! Using basic navigation over the lifetime of this phone (~3 yrs?) costs more than the phone itself.

I found a bug last night. Was navigating from Leeds to Lincoln where there used to be a series of roundabouts along an A road, however the road has changed and bridges are now used to keep traffic moving alon. This is new so the navigator still expects a roundabout. The problem is that the maps application thinks you've gone off road and stops routing, when you pass under the bridge and are "back on the road" it starts trying to calculate the route again but never actually completes this. You have to exit the maps app and restart it, even exiting naviagtion doesn't fix it. Quite annoying whilst you're driving really.

How can I uninstall nokia maps 2.0 from my N95 8G.The procedure mentioned above doesn't work

I too am unable to use navigation as my 3 year Western Europe Licence won't work. It's very disappointing that a lot of people have highlighted this problem and there has been no response from Nokia. I thought the whole purpose of these blogs was two way communication with the development team, if no one is going to respond from Nokia then people stop doing Nokia's testing for free and go back to Maps 1 where my navigation licence does work.

hey could some 1 please tell me if there is anyway to get the new 2.0 to work on the N73
if this app is for the N series then y does it not support N73
Please Help

Hi,
I downloaded de 2.0 sis file.
I bspcially bought a 4GB micro SD card for my N81.
But even with an empty memory card, I cant install teh sis fie: " memory card full "
This is useless!!!!! Who can help me?
regards.

Though Generally speaking Nokia Maps 2.0 is a pretty impressive application, including pretty neat UI features, there are quite a few things to be improved as well. For instance, speed, especially scrolling across the map (and it's not just loading the tiles, I mean smoothens of the UI more). Also I would wish, that Nokia would go trough Garmin's iQue Pocket PC application for reference, for instance, their "3D map" feature is really well implemented compared to Nokia's. For instance I don't need the clouds Nokia is giving on the upper part of the 3D view, but all the space on the screen is important.

Another thing, which could make Nokia Maps really stand out, would be inclusion of some, atleast some simple, topologymap features in detailed map views. It shouldn't be too hard, and make map much more usefull for a pedestrian use. Another cool idea, which I really would like to see, is one where I could search for other Nokia Maps users... or I could select certain Nokia Maps users to be shown at the map. All the hardware for such feature should be allready there, so why it's not included, it's so obious and cool?

I really would like to say that this application is greatest that I've ever used but I cant. It doesnt work on my E65. I hope you guys fix it soon.

I just bought the route66 new navigator 8 software DVD wit
western europe for 120E i think thats the better deal looking
also at nikias new price policy for the licencies

In FAQ there are mentioned e.g. Gambia and Senegal maps. How can I find those? Not visible in Map Loader.

So the free "Find route" option is now gone? Or is it just very well hidden?

Also, does the new UI take more space from the map screen or am I just imagining things (hard to compare with the old version)?

Feature suggestion: put sat status and download counter on transparent overlays on the corners of the map space, and then pop out the search box only if I start typing.

I am sorry for the English. I have found out the following problem on E90 (and on stolen was too most). At the included navigation and at increase in speed> 80 km/hour navigation comes off on foot and navigation declares "is impossible because of high speed"
Will solve this problem. Very much irritates. Pleases one that I have paid only one month.

I'm Kuala Lumpur, MY, installed @ e90. good looking features - cool:) Previous maps 1.2 - tried navigation for 3 days - working fine. Now with beta 2.0 - navi voice not support in MY. Please advice

e90 -when run communicatior - big screen - wrong button assigned - EXIT label at the bottom but button to press is TOP (for options) for YES/NO ke is OK

I am currently living in Johor Bahru, Malaysia and frequently use the navigation feature when driving around in Malaysia and Singapore.

The new version 2.0 seems very much improved and I was looking forward to an improved navigation experience as well. I am surpriced to find that the navigation feature for Singapore/Malaysia has been removed in the update. Will navigation for Singapore/Malaysia be included later and if so also during the beta period ?. I know that the "Walk" navigation probably need quite some additional information, but could it not be possible to have "Drive" navigation only then for Singapore/Malaysia as is already possible in version 1.2 ?

Furthermore after the update (without any problems) I decided to erase all my maps and then downloaded them again using maploader 1.3.5, just for good measure. I found that the map files were smaller in size, which I concluded could have been due to better compression or similar, however I found that this was because the detailing has been decreased. Many streets in Johor Bahru have been removed, including my home address, and Singapore only show streets with blue background and not the nice detailing of green areas etc as in version 1.2. Maybe a bug?.

I rolled back to version 1.2 and downloaded maps again and then re-updated to version 2.0. By doing this I then had the "old maps" again, but still missing the navigation.

For now I am back with version 1.2, but hope the Singapore/Malaysia is included again such that I can start using version 2.0 :-)

Have just downloaded Maps 2.0 Beta and when I re-download a city guide and enter the License Code it says 'License Code not Valid' (or something like that). Any suggestions cos I don't want to purchase it again!

Hi there,

thanks a lot, but I am desperately missing the navigation in Eastern Europe. What's up with that? Is it going to be there in the final release?

Thanks and regards,
Corwin

Well done for an excellent product.
I successfully installed the update, and updated the maps and licence on my N95 with no problems.
I use the satnav feature a lot while driving so was pleased with the improvements made. The new Blocked function for recalculating a route is very useful, but for safer driving it should be directly mapped to a grid key and not put in a sub menu.
The satellite status indicator is much more useful than the previous versions as (I presume) it shows the number of satellites / fix quality.
I also tried the new Walk feature and found it useful - it would be good to merge this with the Sports Tracker application.
A 'must have' upgrade if you're an N95 owner.

Great job guys! Many improvements... By far my favorite navigator.

The only thing I think its important to reconsider is adding alarm (visual / sound) when approaching POIs (like speedcamera alerts).

That would be great!

"Nokia sees that location based experiences, such as mapping and navigation are to be a fundamental platform in mobile devices going forward."

Nokia should sort this out then.

I'm afraid it hasn't persuaded me to replace Google maps on the active standby shortcut, not by a long way. It's still too slow and the map is quite ugly, not nice to use at all.

Also why restrict "my location" to GPS? GPS rarely works, at least on N95. Google maps finds the location within a couple of seconds through the NW - accurate enough at least to save having to manually go to wherever you are at to seach for things.

Not a bad job, keeping in mind that it is a beta. I particularly agree with the majority of comments made by Geoff in #59 and #91.

Some issues I have noticed (Using N95 8GB latest FW):

1. When searching, the predictive text function is not right. That is, there is no way that I can see to select a different word. If you type in ‘he’ but wanted ‘if’ you don’t seem to be able to change the word using the (*+) key.

2. Search also returns some strange results. If I have a GPS fix on my location and search for Mongolia (looking for Mongolian BBQ restaurant) I get the following results;
FAV: Shows 4 results but they are really just 2 I have saved and then duplicated by the search. It should easily be able to tell that the 2 search results are the same as my saved landmarks.
WALK: Shows 2 results, however, they are not the 2 landmarks I saved. Moreover, they are not walking distance being 17,200km and 17,900km away and they are overseas! At least I will have built up an appetite by the time I get there.
Guide: shows 7 results ranging from 8,700km to 18,000km.
PLACES: Shows 25 results. 4 of those are in Australia (where I am) ranging 325km to 1,000km away. The rest are overseas up to 12,200km away.
Clearly those sorts of results are ridiculous, by foot I would not want to see more than maybe 5km and maybe about 10-15km by car and I think that would be the extreme.

3. I don’t like the fact that I cant scroll when navigation is going (unless I am missing something here). I find it useful to be able to scroll ahead when stopped in traffic to get an idea of where I am going or sometimes to decide if I want to choose an alternative route. Obviously this functionality was take away because the left/right cursor is used to change views, however, I think the click to view option is fine.

4. I haven’t had a chance to check the maps in a large city but the maps in the little town I live in have gone backward. In Armidale, NSW, Australia, Lynches Rd continues to Kellys Plains Rd and did so on the previous maps but not these. Proctor also continues to Lynches and Judith does not break. As they are in this version, it reflects the old map from about the 1950’s. a quick look in Sydney and Brisbane seems to indicate that the maps are current, there also seems to be more, and more accurate, POI’s for both those cities.

5. its not clear to me how Fav Routes work. Already stored in the Fav routes folder is ‘Drive [no motorway]’ but I did not enter this nor can I see how to add to it. Maybe I’m blonde.

6. We also seem to have lost the show route option that previously existed, again, I found this useful for planning. Maybe its still there and I’m having another blonde moment.

7. I would love to know what specifically ‘Fastest’ ‘Shortest’ and ‘Economical’ mean. When I navigate to a point in my town the ‘fastest’ option is a very strange route. This is perhaps something to do with the street errors I mentioned above but the previous maps still showed a better way if I selected alternate route. Using either ‘shortest’ or ‘economical’ showed exactly the same route and is certainly a route I would choose but not the best. Again this might be to do with the map errors mention before.

8. I’m not yet sold on the ‘Walk to’ thing yet as it just seems to plot a ‘Drive to’ route. Maybe it should plot ‘bread crumbs’ in red and white ‘bread crumbs’ for the actual walk. Example: if I plan a ‘Walk to’ from one side of a park to the other it just plans a route around the block instead of going through the park.

Overall I think it’s a promising improvement and it will be very interesting to see the next beta. Perhaps we have been spoiled by the very good beta applications we have had of late but this version seems more alpha to me. I hope my comments help.

> Is ANYONE from NOKIA actually reading this?

Yes. Quite a few, actually. Here's one reply straight from the horse's mouth:
http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/19/nokia-maps-20-beta-%e2%80%93-a...

This comments thread is mostly a feedback channel for Nokia, not a support channel. You can write bug reports either here, or to the feedback form: http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/maps/feedback

Anyway, I agree that we should improve the feedback channel. I guess we should take Bugzilla or something into use for serious bug reporting and tracking....

Hi,
Does anyone from NOKIA actally answer any of the questions / problems posted on this blog ?
I have not seen a single decent reply!!!

i tried MAPS 2 on my nokia n95 (t-mobile uk) and everytime i tried to use navigate (and i do have the navigation option paid for) the software crashed back to the home screen.
i cant use it at all for what i need so i have now gone back
to MAPS 1, Which works great, i sold my PDA and tom tom to use nokia maps exclusively.
is there anyone / any where i can actually post a bug report too ?
Is ANYONE from NOKIA actually reading this ?

It is scandalous, I bought a brand new phone (E65) just half a year ago, and it is already too old to run this app. I really really hope that the final version will support it - otherwise I know I should never buy another phone by Nokia, because Nokia just does not care about existing customers.
And I event spent some Euros for navigation with the previous version of the maps!

on E90 internal screen I enter something into the search field and press Search (actually cancel as the softkeys are swapped). a message appears "searching online". Under it the whole screen blinks while searching. My sw version is 200.34.70 (true sw)

Nice application....needs tweaking here and there.

Regarding TRAFFIC INFO, why not use the build in FM radio of most phones to get the TMC info that most navigation systems use, instead of this data heavy RTTI system you've implemented now.

A TMC option would be free to use and not dependable on downloading data.

/Jake

On my E90 the buttons are reversed
Very small almost unreadable fonts in some cases
I found the show route option useful for planning and would like it again.
The new Walk mode is interesting, but it aught to be a real walk mode
I would like a possibility to easy delete unwanted (superfluous) items in Favourites and Addresses

missing menu- not use offroad

Topography maps would be nice feature. Most of the places where I would need navigation or "walking" feature right now (mountains etc.) don't have any relevant information.

and the alert for the POIS?
where is?!
Like the trafic camaras?
Is this possible?
You loose very much for the others GPS programs.
I don´t understand, this is a beta program and we still pay for use and related all the bugs?
You can put the price for the license a little more expensive.
I just don´t understand.
My phone is the Nokia E90, and i have "paid, price" €900 for im,and you want (nokia) we paid for the license!!!!???
I´m sorry for my bad english, but, this is the questions, I want to have one answer.
Thanks and good luck...

Hi guys,

you list Iceland but no maps in Download? Help? Travelling in two weeks and would love to try this there!

MESSAGE TO MAPS 2.0 BLOGGERS - PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING.

PLEASE don't WASTE this opportunity to input into the development of Nokia Maps 2.0.

In particular, please READ the KNOWN ISSUES list and Nokia's FAQs, AND PREVIOUS POSTS before posting - and please, if its been said before, ask yourself whether its necessary to say it again. If you want your own post to be read, take the trouble first to read what others have already posted.

In particular:

1. PLEASE STOP POSTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE MAP DATA. The KNOWN ISSUES list says "New map data (upgrade via the new Map Loader) is also still in beta and, for example, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau are not drawn correctly." So please don't waste space in this blog continually complaining about it. Especially saying the same thing over and over again e.g. New Zealand, Pakistan etc. Enough already!

2. E90 users - there's clearly a big problem for you - but please don't keep posting the same complaints over and over again. I'm sorry that you people have got a raw deal, but these problems appear to be isolated to particular devices such as the E90. Others have got a usable, testable product in MAPS 2.0 Beta.

Having said this, it is NO CREDIT to Nokia developers that they have not yet made ONE SINGLE RESPONSE to this blog, more than a week after it was launched. If they had acknowledged the E90 issues in the blog, or in the "Known Issues", it would have saved a lot of wasted time, and given some reassurance that this blog is actually being read by Nokia. The current appearance is that it is not.

NOKIA Developers - do you have any interest in showing, even in the smallest way, that you ARE listening?????!

one week & 153 comments. no response from Nokia maps team. keep up the "good" work...

@jhgkjh - 1. This week was Mobile World Congress, and seeing as how Maps was launched there, I would guesstimate that a few of the team was on hand at the 4-day event, in a different country than their office.
2. 153 comments, but how many of them were A. E90 owners saying the softkeys are messed up or B. People asking when a version would be out for non-Feature Pack 1 devices (or ranting because it doesn't work on their N70)?
3. How many people who've downloaded the app realized they were downloading BETA software that is known and quickly admitted to have bugs?

The map of Singapore has inverted colors in the 2D Map view.

Hi Tommi,

Sorry for the rant in 190 :-)
you guys do great work on the apps .. Thanks.

As most UK users have written, Its pretty much useless software only using 4 digits of the post code

1) Is there any reason that it does not use full 7 digit ?
2) is there any scope for traffic cameras poi (eitherr from nokia or 3rd party)?

KeithL : answer 191 ..
i have now "Unbranded" my phone using freely available tools on the lazyweb and upgraded the firmware to the latest EURO1 firmware and installed MAPS 2 and it works.

Hi,
Planned a route with
http://lomakartta.lomasuomi.fi/reitti.asp
betweeen Tampere and Oulu, 476km.
Same route with same starting points with Nokia Maps 2 is 486km. Not a big difference but Nokia Maps should be the same or better:)

Following on from 59,91,153:
I've noticed a couple more bugs, as follows:
A serious bug for uk users whereby only the 1st 4 characters of the UK post code are used in the search. This means that postcode searches are so inaccurate as to be useless. The UK post code is the single most used and most useful search citerion in the UK, and it is very important that you provide full 7 character postcode searching, in order to have a competitive product in the UK, and to avoid having a lot of very disappointed UK users.
2. There is a bug that incorrectly estimates journey times in the UK, as much shorter than they can be in reality - at least in the Manchester area. In Maps 1, the estimated time was reassuringly generous, so that you were likely to arrive on time even if the traffic was quite bad. In Maps 2, you'd need to be travelling by helicopter, or at least seriously breaking the speed limits on a clear road with no traffic, in order to achieve most of the estimated journey times.

I dont think Nokia tested this on E90..probably because..they know that E90 is Nokia unloved baby...and best forgotten child.

Hi Using the new beta application, look good but a lot of maps information is lost compared to version 1.0, for exampel there is no roads in central Belgrade in the new version.

When is the "sharp" 2.0 version exspected??

Sorry.

In the last post I was meant to say:

I will steer well clear of Nokia maps 2.0 until its offical release.

PLUS I think the search on 4 digit post codes is NOT good enough for any sat nav system. Nokia, you really need to address this.

Apart from that I am looking forward to the upgrade. Is there an estimation on the offical release?

Is there any plans for tracking and for the maps to change direction as you turn the corner?

I understand that the Nokia Navigator can do this, but the Nokia navigator does have an onboard compass. Is this possible without the compass?

Further to my comments in #116

N95 8GB latest FW.

1. I really miss the fact that I cant scroll the map when I am navigating. I actually forgot how much I do this until a trip over the weekend. Why do I do it? If I am driving and I need a petrol station I generally scroll to the next petrol station (POI) to see if it’s Caltex (my account is with them) but now I have to wait until I approach the service station (if its on the route) which can be too late on a motorway. If I’m not on a motorway the service station might be a block or two away, in this instance I would be forced to stop my trip, stop navigation and then scroll to see if it’s the right station. I realise I could search before I make a trip but it doesn’t always happen like that. The same applies for ATM’s etc Please bring back the option to scroll while navigating, back. I’m happy to just click the button to go to views.

2. I also realise that the maps data (v2.0) are known to have issues, however, when scrolling through a map it is very slow and not very smooth.

3. Zoom in or out does not work while navigating.

4. It would be great if we could just go to a website and choose the maps we want instead of having to use Map Loader. As with most Nokia software that requires a web connection it fails to prompt for a proxy password. I’m not just talking about beta products either. Let me tell you it takes a long time to download a major city over a GPRS connection. Its 3G when I get there but that’s too late.

5. The cost of navigation really is over the top. Maybe KFC, or similar, could subsidise the cost of navigation with a BRIEF pop-up alert when they are being approached during navigation.

6. Even though it is beta I think some sort of documentation describing new features, or changes to existing feature, is required.

It looks as though it will be a great product when it gets to release. Keep up the awesome job that you have been doing in Beta Labs. I really feel for you with all the ignorant raves from those who don’t know what beta release means. Maybe you could make people pass a quick test before being allowed to download lol!

Where is the license menu for Eastern Europe Nokia Maps 2.0?
I can’t apply my 3 years registration.

Darran@218,

The fw is just that one. Is there a specific thing how to update the software? ie. have to do something in some particular order?

Since 2001 I have had different GPS. This Maps beta is absolutely the worst of all I've seen suggesting amazingly idiotic routes both in "fastest" and "shortest" mode.

Tommi, Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta is not working on Nokia E70 (e70-2, RM-24). When I tried to do the upgrade install on top of version 2.0 I got message that it couldn't upgrade. Then I removed the version 2.0 and did free install for v.3 beta. After install there is no picture for the icon in the programs folder. The placeholder is still there, just the label for "maps". Clicking on it - it doesn't start. Nothing happens. So I uninstalled and back to version 2.0 ...till this is fixed (and hopefully working on my little lovely friend E70). Thanks. -Polo-

Hi, this is my second coment coz I did forget to mention this in my prev. coment.
I do own a mercedes C280 model 2008, each time i activate the blue tooth on my Nokia 6110 navigator along with the embeded blue tooth module in my mercedes the navigation stop completly I mean the sound navigation also the upper left corner arrow show 0 with no update although the phone is working fine on the rest of function with my car blue tooth module including even showing me the signal strenght of the network on my car screen, this is very annoying coz either i will be loosing the navigation in case of i did preffere the mobile calls or i will loose the mobile calls if i did preffered the navigation.
Is there any over comes for this problem?
Eng. Hossam Abd elaal

i can't use "chinese" to search anything cos the key "1" is a shortcut button.

"Use the 1 key to change map modes (2D, 3D, Satellite, Hybrid)"

Hello, using N95 8gb
Nokia maps 2 beta works great!!
Only problem i had was to delete all maps and re-install after version 2 Beta.
I have a europe account which still was activated.
This new version works faster than before and looks more professional.
For me there is no need to go back to version 1.
It is clearly mentioned that version 2 is Beta, i was curious, i read above weblog and was convinced enough to install.
As i travel the world as engineer (also finish company, Wartsila) this Nokia Maps is the most perfect tool for me, already tested in Vietnam, Singapore, Europe and Thailand!
I think that it is a great opportunity to test it before final release. For me peronally it works fine, ofcourse, the final release will be better.
One problem thing (already mentioned above) is the route calculation. This could be improved, when driving in the Netherlands it wants me to leave the Highway and get back to the same highway! Also sometimes strange routes to destination!
This probably is a little less kilometres but knowing this version 2 Beta still gets me everywhere.
Nevertheless, i was used to TomTom navigator 6 , and i feel no need to go back to TomTom 6.

unable to install on 6120c, got update error.

Is it possible to get the beta version working with an N73? I've been trying even though it's not listed as compatible and had mixed success (it's installed, won't open).

If this version is completely incompatible with the N73 is there any chance of a compatible one in future or is the end for us 'old school' users?

N82 came bundled with 3 months of free navigation. After upgrading Maps 2.0 said I have a 3 DAY trial?!
I had tens of days left and the FAQ states I can get it from Options. I got no note "xxx-day license activated", I get "Update: Update completed".

-Did I just loose tens of days without warning?
-How can I see how many days there are left?

YES PLZ PUT SOME MAJOR CITIES OF PAKISTAN DETAILED MAPS IN FINAL RELEASE OF NOKIA MAPS
THNKZ

We cant find any pakistan maps .....i hope in this latest version of nokia maps ..... Nokia will give us some pakistan maps

People from Pakistan - I also wish that you get your maps for your country. But you do not have to proclaim this over and voer again. Thank you.

hi , i have install it to my nokia n82 it works but menu works a lil bit slow

Hi Yea it works slow in menu

Sorry for my english

Tommi Vilkamo said:

> Note: this does *not* work on S60 3rd Edition devices, only the ones with Feature Pack 1.

Can you tell us if this beta will be made available on 3rd Ed initial release devices such as the E70?

And if not, will the shipping version be available on initial release devices, and if so, how long will we have to wait for the full release?

Nokia n82 wi wont UPDATE !!!!!!

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@levent:
I did not have to re-enter my 3-yr license. It was automatically accepted.

@Paul:
I am also missing the calculate route function. Will this come back in future versions?

To calculate a route do the following:

Select a place. Add--> to route
options--> add stopover
Select a new place
Make sure the transport mode is right, or change it and go back to go back to the route
Options---> show route

@ Jan - looked at older posts seems others are missing too, it would be extremely disappointing if they pulled this!

Has the free tool, calculate route been pulled then ? thats very disappointing if so

@ James

Thanks mate, slightly over complicated compared to old maps though

James, is there any way to get just word directions, all i can see is the map directions, if you remember there was a screen of step by step words

cheers for all help
Paul

Paul - no, I can't see an option to do that.

I do remember that option but never used it... I only got my phone on Saturday!

Why has the 3 year subscription been removed?..Other options are NOT available for the mapping.
The price for a single year is too expensive.

On E90:
- VERY slow on internal large screen (Google Maps is fast and smooth, but internal Nokia developers don't even come close...)
- reversed buttons (as mentioned in other posts)
- very small fonts = unreadable in car
- downloaded data counter cut in half, bottom half invisible
- somehow navigation does not work for Poland any more (it did in ver. 1) - you could post that info here, so I do not install software that breaks what worked before
- automatically activated 3-day trial without even asking me

To summarize - this seems like early alfa, not beta (never even tested on E90). VERY long way to go to even approach my TomTom on usability/interface/speed. Maybe on maps 5 this thing will be worth something...

Have to agree with some of the previous comments. This seems like alfa, not beta release, coded by in someone's basement by a teenage kid.
- On my E90 the buttons are reversed (they haven't even tested in on the E90)
- Data counter icon cut in a half, can't see it properly (what a joke)
- small unreadable fonts
- simple navigation taken away
- subscripton based navigation
- search is a joke of all jokes. It could not find my bank which is 2km away from my house, instead it found another bank 10 km away!

What a lame excuse for an app. I wonder what the Nokia boys are smoking. What idiot will pay subscription for navigation on a garbage product when you can just purchase tomtom, garmin, route 66 and use it forever?

Memo to the coders: go have a look at proper software such as tomtom, garmin.

SHAME NOKIA, SHAME

In previous version maps for Macedonia and city of Skopje were detailed although outdated. New version has very few details for Skopje, Macedonia even whole Balkan peninsula.
When will satellite maps be available for pc download (not only for phone download)?

To add to my previous post, zoom-in barely works on E90 internal screen - Shift + 8 = * - not very comfortable. Zoom-out does not work at all, so you better zoom in wisely :)

And I think this is not a good idea to use at least 10% of screen estate for "always on" search bar, useless 99% of a time. Most Nokia phone screens are small and low res (320x240 is a step backward from E60/70).

This should definitely be an Alpha release, I am pretty sure it was never tried even once on E90 - the flaws are just to obvious.

put back satellite status like as it was before.

i wanna choose which categories to show on map without searching like as it was before.

when im scrolling on the map, there is too much delay to show new areas when compared to old version in which there was no delay like this

Does anyone know how to turn off categories??? I want to choose what i look at rather than just about everything..

I'd also like to add my voice to the requests for E65 support. It'll be a big disappointment if this phone is not supported when only a few months old...

Mark

The nokia maps 2.0 in the other day, show me the buildings in the map, byt just one time. Why?
I don´t see this anymore?

is somebody for nokia reading this page?
And the answers?

Installed on E90 seems to work well. I have a 3 year license for Western Europe, however its not an option on version 2.0 (western Europe) when I try the CD key for other maps its not accepted. Is there a work around or does Nokia expect everyone to pay again? - I see quite a few people have asked this any chance of a comment please?

E90 German version - Setup to run in English. LEft hand side of E90 - When I open the E90 up and navi is running. I press OPTIONS it wants to Exit, when I press EXIT the options come up!!

> I have a 3 year license for Western Europe ...
> Is there a work around or does Nokia expect everyone to pay again?

Richard and others, the FAQ document says:

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2. Can I use my navigation and / or City Guide license from an earlier Nokia Maps version in Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta?

Of course you can use a license purchased in Nokia Maps 1.0 (or an earlier Nokia Maps version) in Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta. In the event that you have problems getting your license in Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta to work, please go to Options > Extras > Drive & Walk. Choose the region for which you purchased the
navigation license and go to Options > Update.

Please allow the connection to the license server to check the purchase and license options by selecting Yes and by then selecting the correct Internet access point (if asked). A note, xxx-day license activated is displayed where xxx is the amount of days left on your license or alternatively the mobile device informs you that the license has been updated.

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Does this help or not?

Ps. in addition, the FAQ document says: navigation is supported for more than 30 countries. Navigation licenses are available for the following regions:
· Alp Region
· Benelux plus
· France-Benelux
· Germany/Austria/Switzerland
· Italy Plus
· Nordic Countries
· Iberia
· United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
· Russia
· Turkey
· Mainland China
· Taiwan
· Hong Kong/Macau
· India
· South Korea
· Australia
· USA
· Canada
· Mexico
· Brazil
· Egypt
· Middle East
· South Africa

New Zealand maps please.

Couple of niggles on N95-2 on Voda UK

Whilst in navigation if you press the red button to take you to the main menu (as if you want to make a phone call) then the navigation just quits - the work around I've found is that you have to press the menu key then red to get to the main screen.

Can't change options like metric or imperial units whilst navigating

Can't zoom out whilst navigation

No speed camera POIs

The biggest bug I can find is when not navigating if you press any of the arrow keys (ie to take a look at the wider area) then the screen stops following you so the little red dot which carries on following you just goes off the map...

Postcode navigation sucks as well!

Hi,

I tried using maps 2.0 on N95 while driving I also had navicore system running. My experience with both this system in use simultaneously is:

1. Navicore however old (software version from 2005) has more data than the Nokia maps 2.0, I was looking for Ilmakuja (in Finland) this street has been existing for as far as I can remember.
2. Application of Navicore to let user search for a street without requiring the street number is an excellent feature and should be added to Nokia maps2.0 as well

3. On the application side the color and design on Nokia maps 2.0 looks much better than old version

4. Fix is faster in my experiment than even navicore

5. One feature which should be added is to automatically position to my current position (rather than asking for the user to select a option or press a key)

6. Map's 3D mode view is very good with blue sky visible in the background.

7. Search option in the main view is a good addition.

8. Why is country and City first choice (user is interested in street address first and this should be made as the first option)

9.On the navigation side Nokia maps 2.0 seems to be ahead (a little ) to Navicore.

Good work in improving the experience with Nokia maps2.0 but it is still not upto what it should so keep up the good work and do little more and you will reach very good stage.

Chand

For Hong Kong the language used is now Pin Yin. In previous versions (before 1.3) it was correct, i.e English conversion of Cantonese or localized English names. This applies to street names and many location names. Example, my steet was correctly shown before as 'To Yuen St.' which is how it is shown on local street signs, maps etc. The 1.3 and later Nokia maps now shows it as 'Tao Yuan Jie' which is the Pin Yin version. This makes the Nokia map virtually useless for local users and vistors since the names don't match the local convention.

Following on from 59, 91, 153:

1. There's a Bug in the "Move" facility for stopovers. When selecting the place to move the location to in the list, pressing the joystick centre button does nothing - you have to press the left option "Select" key on the N95. The centre joystick button needs enabling as a "Slect" key as well - this would be easier and more intuitive. I found myself pressing the joystick button and wondering why nothing was happening!
2. Good idea to show "Drive" or "walk" in the "route" panel to confirm the selected mode. But why stop there? As well as showing "Drive" or "walk", why not show "fastest, "shortest" etc. - .e.g "Drive shortest" or "Drive economical".
Also, please put the ability to make these selections right there on the route panel - there's space, and it would be easier and quicker.
3. How about including a "calculate all" option, so that where the user is happy to wait, the phone will calculate time and distance for all three modes - quickest, shortest, economical, so that an informed choice can be made between these without having to keep re-calculating and trying to remember the results from the other modes?

One more comment. If you receive a call while navigating its no problem to answer the call but you don’t get the option to switch between handset and loudspeaker. Obviously you would want to use the loudspeaker because you are driving.

N95 8GB v15 FW

Very creative routing and rerouting algorithm - like in true art, you never know where you are taken to in the next turn. Hopefully after these artist programmers some more traditional, more logic oriented ones get a chance, too.

I updated the beta version of nokia maps on the n82 and lost
my three months licence the phone displays i got the licence but when i will navigate i must purchage a licence can anyone help with this

I too have installed Google Maps on my N95 in NZ due to the lack of maps for New Zealand however I have tried Maps 2.0 in Australia & found it to work great but slow. I know it's only in beta & I'm sure this will be a beautiful app when its finished but like so many others, We really would like NZ maps for version 2.0 SOON !!!!!! Please.

I would love to use this & quite happily pay for the license for the talking nav...

... I mean I went back to version 1.0..... -polo-

... my previous post is totally confusing.... I think I am on drugs... I mean problem version is 2.0 Beta and working version is 1.0. Thanks. And sorry for putting so much crap on this blog. -popo-

As I purchased a 3 yr licence for navigation in release 1, I'm wondering if
a) the new version will be a free upgrade on my existing licence
b) if the navigation algorithms will be improved

I've had several horrible instances where the navigation routes were significantly sub-optimal such that a) my wife became very angy (not a good thing) and b) I abandoned the use of the system.

One such route would be Cambridge to Oxford which takes you down to the M25 around and up again. This is plainly not a sensible route.

Another is Cambridge to Kew. This route went right into the centre of London via some very specialised roads involving width restrictions etc.

I'm all in favour for new improved versions but can we get the basics right please. Cheers, Tom

First of all the new look of Nokia Maps 2.0 is great. But I have a few of comments (I'm running Maps 2.0 on a N82):
- Different languages in the menu (e.g. favorites and search are both in english instead of dutch). All the categories in the search menu are displayed in english. Hopefully this will be corrected in the next version.
- In the navigation mode the font size of the speed indicator is too small.
- I'm unable to display the sattelite map? I was wondering if these maps are included in the maps from nokia map loader?
- The zoom function does not work well. When I apply zoom out it will zoom maximal.
- I prefer a seperate gps status window (e.g. with signal strength bars).
- Please Nokia enable the centre joystick as select key!
- Remove the exit button in the main view. Since it is very easy to close the application by accidant.
- I looks like if the gps postion update interval is relatively long. Sometimes it will take a second to move to the new gps position. Is this caused by the gps (hardware)?

Looking good, but missing the navigate to contact option. Correct?

Trying install over the old version ends up to message 'Installation error' on my 6110 Navigator.

Wow. Looks great, works fast. Really traffic problem =( Anyway, I love it =)

BTW on Nokia N95, updated without any problems

tried to install over the older version - the same error as in case of #2 (device is E61i)

Jani: 6110 has Route66 maps not Nokia Maps, so try to install the .sis meant for devices without old maps app.

nbelousov: E61i is S60 3rd edition, not S60 3rd edition fp1, so Maps 2.0 Beta does not support it.

Will Maps version 2.0 be available also for S60 3.0 phones or just from 3.1 onwards?

First findings: Nokia Maps looks more mature now and working with it seems more easy and intuitive. Navigating though is still odd sometimes. It seems maps are not accurate or navigating over it is strange. Nokia Maps still makes me take turns that might be shorter for a bird, but not for a car. Still have to take three left turns to get to my home while just going straight on is only 50 meters and allowed. I wonder what criteria it uses to calculate the quickest way to a navigation point. It makes me go to places that just not seem logical and absolutely not the quickest way.

Hmmm ... Download Maps 2.0 no longer available. Has this been pulled already?

Argh, where'd it go?

Just tried on my N95 :

on first start, it asked me if I want to connect to update license information (or something like that), I said yes. After a little time, it tells me "3 days trial activated". What ?!? I do NOT want start my trial now... the message didn't tell clearly that trial will be activated...

Then I tried to search for an adress, select "Walk to", then after some disclamers the map show up with the message "Calculating route"... I let it 10 minutes calculating route, but no results (yes, I had a GPS fix ;)

I'll retry later...

Yep, It seems that the page http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/maps it is not working correctly

"Update error!" on my nokia 6120.

Not sure if there is an official place to submit feedback on map data, if there is please let me know.

The maps for Guernsey, Channel Islands seem to be using TeleAtlas data which seems to be highly inaccurate, incomplete and nowhere near good enough to be usable. I know that Navteq do have useable maps so I am not sure why you are not using them, since they are one of your sources.

Just installed to my N82 and it looks like my 90 day navigation licence is lost. When I select connect to update license information, only option is to by new license.

Hi link to the download is not working!! If you would like to download it lands back on the start page! Please improve Thanks

Nice improvements...

The softkey labels are transposed on my E90's internal screen, however :-)

Where's the satellite status screen?

Is the server overloaded as I cant access the maps site?

Where is the downloadpage? Please anyone? Or at least the direct link to the file?

All links to http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/maps end up on the main betalabs page...

Where to download?

Ahmad: Satellite status is visible all the time; it's the 8 or so bars right of the search box. If you get a fix, you'll see green bars.