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1. Looking good, but missing the navigate to contact option. Correct?

   Comment by Cybertown — February 11, 2008 @ 12:18 pm

2. Trying install over the old version ends up to message ‘Installation error’ on my 6110 Navigator.

   Comment by Jani — February 11, 2008 @ 12:25 pm

3. Wow. Looks great, works fast. Really traffic problem =( Anyway, I love it =)

   Comment by Alex G — February 11, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

4. BTW on Nokia N95, updated without any problems

   Comment by Alex G — February 11, 2008 @ 1:01 pm

5. So the free “Find route” option is now gone? Or is it just very well hidden?

   Also, does the new UI take more space from the map screen or am I just imagining things (hard to compare with the old version)?

   Feature suggestion: put sat status and download counter on transparent overlays on the corners of the map space, and then pop out the search box only if I start typing.

   Comment by Lasse — February 11, 2008 @ 1:15 pm

6. tried to install over the older version - the same error as in case of #2 (device is E61i)

   Comment by nbelousov — February 11, 2008 @ 1:17 pm

7. Jani: 6110 has Route66 maps not Nokia Maps, so try to install the .sis meant for devices without old maps app.

   nbelousov: E61i is S60 3rd edition, not S60 3rd edition fp1, so Maps 2.0 Beta does not support it.

   Comment by Juha K — February 11, 2008 @ 1:44 pm

8. […] komt Nokia Beta Labs wederom met leuk nieuws: Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta. De vernieuwde navigatie-functie heet nu “Drive” en heeft een nieuwe interface gekregen […]

   Pingback by Nokia Drive: Maps 2.0 Beta » Onbezet.nl — February 11, 2008 @ 2:10 pm

9. Will Maps version 2.0 be available also for S60 3.0 phones or just from 3.1 onwards?

   Comment by Anssi — February 11, 2008 @ 2:14 pm

10. First findings: Nokia Maps looks more mature now and working with it seems more easy and intuitive. Navigating though is still odd sometimes. It seems maps are not accurate or navigating over it is strange. Nokia Maps still makes me take turns that might be shorter for a bird, but not for a car. Still have to take three left turns to get to my home while just going straight on is only 50 meters and allowed. I wonder what criteria it uses to calculate the quickest way to a navigation point. It makes me go to places that just not seem logical and absolutely not the quickest way.

    Comment by Cybertown — February 11, 2008 @ 2:39 pm

11. […] Maps -sovelluksen uusi versio on saatavilla beetana Nokian Betalabs-palvelusta. Varsinainen lataussivu oli tosin jumissa, kun hetki sitten […]

    Pingback by Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta : Jaakko Kuivalaisen Tekkiblogi - Kuivalaiset.net — February 11, 2008 @ 3:05 pm

12. Hmmm … Download Maps 2.0 no longer available. Has this been pulled already?

    Comment by Rob — February 11, 2008 @ 3:12 pm

13. Argh, where’d it go?

    Comment by Richard — February 11, 2008 @ 3:14 pm

14. Just tried on my N95 :

    on first start, it asked me if I want to connect to update license information (or something like that), I said yes. After a little time, it tells me “3 days trial activated”. What ?!? I do NOT want start my trial now… the message didn’t tell clearly that trial will be activated…

    Then I tried to search for an adress, select “Walk to”, then after some disclamers the map show up with the message “Calculating route”… I let it 10 minutes calculating route, but no results (yes, I had a GPS fix

    I’ll retry later…

    Comment by Ludo — February 11, 2008 @ 3:14 pm

15. Yep, It seems that the page http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/maps it is not working correctly

    Comment by David García Pérez — February 11, 2008 @ 3:15 pm

16. “Update error!” on my nokia 6120.

    Comment by treetops — February 11, 2008 @ 3:15 pm

17. Not sure if there is an official place to submit feedback on map data, if there is please let me know.

    The maps for Guernsey, Channel Islands seem to be using TeleAtlas data which seems to be highly inaccurate, incomplete and nowhere near good enough to be usable. I know that Navteq do have useable maps so I am not sure why you are not using them, since they are one of your sources.

    Comment by fr — February 11, 2008 @ 3:33 pm

18. Just installed to my N82 and it looks like my 90 day navigation licence is lost. When I select connect to update license information, only option is to by new license.

    Comment by Ville — February 11, 2008 @ 3:34 pm

19. Hi link to the download is not working!! If you would like to download it lands back on the start page! Please improve Thanks

    Comment by sho78 — February 11, 2008 @ 3:35 pm

20. Publieke beta Nokia Maps 2.0 van start

    Het was even wachten tot de officiële aankondiging in Barcelona, maar nu is Nokia Maps 2.0 een publieke beta. Alle informatie is te vinden bij betalabs.

    Meer over deze versie volgt vast en zeker later. Tot die tijd adviseer ik graag de revi…

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21. Nice improvements…

    The softkey labels are transposed on my E90’s internal screen, however

    Comment by Mark Morley — February 11, 2008 @ 3:43 pm

22. Where’s the satellite status screen?

    Comment by Ahmad — February 11, 2008 @ 3:48 pm

23. Is the server overloaded as I cant access the maps site?

    Comment by Andy — February 11, 2008 @ 3:53 pm

24. Where is the downloadpage? Please anyone? Or at least the direct link to the file?

    Comment by localhost — February 11, 2008 @ 3:54 pm

25. All links to http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/maps end up on the main betalabs page…

    Where to download?

    Comment by tobias — February 11, 2008 @ 3:55 pm

26. Ahmad: Satellite status is visible all the time; it’s the 8 or so bars right of the search box. If you get a fix, you’ll see green bars.

    Comment by Lasse — February 11, 2008 @ 4:04 pm

27. wheres the download page?? it keeps taking me back to homepage!!!

    Comment by bigboss — February 11, 2008 @ 4:06 pm

28. Just tried the page using my N95. And there it is! Downloading the upgrade version right now.

    Comment by localhost — February 11, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

29. Download is not possible anymore… Please fix!!

    Comment by Philipp — February 11, 2008 @ 4:09 pm

30. Hmm… For me, it works fine, but apparently we have some issues with the whole website. Apologies everyone.

    Here are the direct links to download files:

    1.Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta for devices which have an older version of Maps application installed

    2. Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta for devices without Maps application

    Note: this does *not* work on S60 3rd Edition devices, only the ones with Feature Pack 1. See:
    http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/matrix_s60_3ed_fp0_1.html
    http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/matrix_s60_3ed_fp1_1.html

    Comment by Tommi Vilkamo — February 11, 2008 @ 4:17 pm

31. Unfortunately there have been difficulties in downloading Nokia Maps 2.0 beta from Nokia Beta Labs. We will make our best in order to provide the software for downloading as soon as possible.

    Kind regards,
    Nokia Maps Marketing team

    Comment by Petteri — February 11, 2008 @ 4:19 pm

32. The Nokia Maps 2.0 downloaded and worked flawlessly , the only hitch is the map downloader , kindly update it and remove the feature of connecting Nokia phone in USB mode , as N958gb no matter what I do is not connecting to it

    Comment by Farhan — February 11, 2008 @ 4:35 pm

33. update on 6120: it works if you use the correct file! (without Maps version)

    Comment by treetops — February 11, 2008 @ 4:38 pm

34. Congratulations for the Walk feature. By the way: An accessible version of Maps 2.0 could be a very helpful solution for increasing the
    mobility of many blind persons around the world, thereby making their lives easier and more independent.
    link

    Comment by Per — February 11, 2008 @ 4:49 pm

35. I’m found 2 small(?) bugs:
    1. On internal screen of Nokia E90 are mixed by places of the signature for soft buttons.
    2. I’m set russian language for Nokia E90 interface. Then, if i’am choice “category” (Tools -> Settings -> Map -> Categories) my E90 reboot

    Comment by Dmitriy Sokolov — February 11, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

36. WooHoo!

    Thanks! Been wanting to try this out

    Comment by Solitaire — February 11, 2008 @ 5:23 pm

37. Hi,
    Just downloaded latest Maps and Maploader. Could Maploader please show which maps are loaded on the phone and allow selected deletion of maps. I travel Europe and the N95+4Gb card just isn’t big enough.

    Thanks

    Comment by chris — February 11, 2008 @ 5:34 pm

38. PAKISTAN detailed maps are still missing…….plzzzzzzzzzzz add some detailed maps of MAJOR CITIES OF PAKISTAN like LAHORE , KARACHI , ISLAMABAD.
    THANKS
    there is also no maps available on NOKIA MAPS UPLOADER For PAKISTAN……

    Comment by Ahsan — February 11, 2008 @ 5:48 pm

39. NEEEED PAKISTAN DETAILED MAPS

    Comment by Ahsan — February 11, 2008 @ 5:48 pm

40. What’s with the huge search box taking over the whole screen? Make it go away when I’m not typing!

    Comment by Fernando — February 11, 2008 @ 6:34 pm

41. Is it possible to get the beta version working with an N73? I’ve been trying even though it’s not listed as compatible and had mixed success (it’s installed, won’t open).

    If this version is completely incompatible with the N73 is there any chance of a compatible one in future or is the end for us ‘old school’ users?

    Comment by Anthony — February 11, 2008 @ 7:41 pm

42. N82 came bundled with 3 months of free navigation. After upgrading Maps 2.0 said I have a 3 DAY trial?!
    I had tens of days left and the FAQ states I can get it from Options. I got no note “xxx-day license activated”, I get “Update: Update completed”.

    -Did I just loose tens of days without warning?
    -How can I see how many days there are left?

    Comment by Okko — February 11, 2008 @ 8:13 pm

43. Oh, come on, why is this available only on FP1? Are the guys with the latest phones better at testing ? Not working on my E61

    Comment by Alexandru Szasz — February 11, 2008 @ 8:14 pm

44. Route to function doesn’t show route anymore. Is this now removed? Also, `walk to’ seems to attempt to call a location before showing it on the map.

    Comment by Ian — February 11, 2008 @ 8:29 pm

45. I’ve found a bug here on my E90. When I switch application to internal display, key order is not right. I see Exit and Options on the right side of the display, but the key to use Exit does not correspond to it but to Options and viceversa.
    When I use Nokia Maps with the internal display, the UI is too much slow.
    * and # to use Zoom does not work properly with internal display. I see # is - and * is + but when I press * the zoom is - and when i press # nothing happens. * works without “Maiusc” and # doesn’t work without “Maiusc”. Anyway with Maiusc+# zoom is step-by-step, this means I have to press everytime I want to zoom Maiusc+#, so it’s not continuative. Zoom-bar does not work too in communicator mode. GPS-Signal is still empty also when position is recognized, but I cannot navigate because it says “it’s waiting for gps-signal”.

    Comment by xazac — February 11, 2008 @ 9:14 pm

46. YES PLZ PUT SOME MAJOR CITIES OF PAKISTAN DETAILED MAPS IN FINAL RELEASE OF NOKIA MAPS
    THNKZ

    Comment by ali — February 11, 2008 @ 10:05 pm

47. We cant find any pakistan maps …..i hope in this latest version of nokia maps ….. Nokia will give us some pakistan maps

    Comment by umer riaz — February 11, 2008 @ 10:07 pm

48. People from Pakistan - I also wish that you get your maps for your country. But you do not have to proclaim this over and voer again. Thank you.

    Comment by Philipp — February 11, 2008 @ 10:14 pm

49. hi , i have install it to my nokia n82 it works but menu works a lil bit slow

    Comment by Noname — February 11, 2008 @ 10:58 pm

50. Hi Yea it works slow in menu

    Sorry for my english

    Comment by nnnn — February 11, 2008 @ 11:03 pm

51. Tommi Vilkamo said:

    > Note: this does *not* work on S60 3rd Edition devices, only the ones with Feature Pack 1.

    Can you tell us if this beta will be made available on 3rd Ed initial release devices such as the E70?

    And if not, will the shipping version be available on initial release devices, and if so, how long will we have to wait for the full release?

    Comment by Alan Burlison — February 11, 2008 @ 11:03 pm

52. Nokia n82 wi wont UPDATE !!!!!!

    (note from admin: please don’t spam, extra lines removed)

    Comment by nnnn — February 11, 2008 @ 11:05 pm

53. What about Windows Mobile support? Last year you bought Smart2Go? No updates for WinMo-Devices?

    Comment by robert — February 11, 2008 @ 11:09 pm

54. Installed on the N95 8GB without problems, installation time 5 minutes, works very fast also inside the house, maps 2.0 looks good and mature. Try tomorrow the walk function.

    Comment by quilamik — February 11, 2008 @ 11:15 pm

55. warning do not install the new nokia maps 2.0 beta

    ——————————————————————————–

    I installed it and it took up 6.3 meg of phone memory even though I installed to memory card.

    in addition you cannot remove it and their notes about deleting cities folder and installing older version doesn’t work so there is not way to get the fffing thing off the phone.. had to reformat my phone memory..

    Comment by peter — February 11, 2008 @ 11:17 pm

56. YES ITS TRUE

    =====>>>>>>>warning do not install the new nokia maps 2.0 beta

    ——————————————————————————–

    I installed it and it took up 6.3 meg of phone memory even though I installed to memory card.

    in addition you cannot remove it and their notes about deleting cities folder and installing older version doesn’t work so there is not way to get the fffing thing off the phone.. had to reformat my phone memory..

    Comment by sabir — February 11, 2008 @ 11:18 pm

57. Who the hell cares about Pakistan unless you want maps to get the hell outta there!

    Comment by indian — February 12, 2008 @ 1:18 am

58. Hi,

    I am using n95 8GB and just install maps 2 beta seems to work fine. Regarding uninstall it seems to work fine too.

    Here what i did:

    1. Menu (switch button)
    2. Application
    3. Select Maps and Press C key
    4. Just follow the instructions from there.

    Or maybe it is just my lucky day

    Comment by khmer_lovers — February 12, 2008 @ 1:30 am

59. Hi,
    Early impressions:
    1. Full marks to Mokia Beta Labs for providing this beta for testing via this site.
    2. The one-box search doesn’t recognise UK Post Codes. Please will you fix this, as the UK post code is the single most useful search criterion for UK navigation. For example, house number and postcode is equivalent to a full address, and can be eneterd in 7-10 characters plus spaces.
    3. When I search, it shows places that are many miles away, under “Walk” search results. Why is this - is it a bug?
    4. It now seems to find People in the search, from a data source on the web. However, it does not know about me, even though I’m listed in the phone book. What is this data source, used to find people? We need to know that in order to know what to expect that it will and won’t find.
    5. I’ve read all the documentation provided at this site, but there is plenty in the new version that I cannot find described or explained anywhere. Can you please provide more documentation somewhere, as without this it’s hard to test it and know what it’s supposed to do!
    6. Before I first used the new version, I downloaded the new maps to my memory card, using the new maploader 1.3.5. It worked OK, until I went into settings, and “Check for Map updates”, which said that my maps were not up to date and deleted all my map data. This must be a bug.
    7. On the plus side, with the new version, the routing is different (probably better!). I’ve just been taken a rather complicated but quick and completely new route to a destination I’ve often been to using the old version.
    6. Unfortunately I find the new drive interface less clear, and less attractive than that for Maps 1.0. Most of the sybmbols and indicators are much smaller, and seem designed for a device with a bigger screen than the N95. The direction indicators on the map on the old version, in 3d mode, were shown “above” the road, which was great and made them really stand out. On the new version, in 3d mode the turn indicators are flat on the road, and so don’t stand out and are much less clear and interesting as a result.
    The black background colour in Maps 2.0 is less attractive than the pleasant blue of Maps 1.0. You describe the black as “transparent black” - but it is not transparent it’s opaque. Transparent would be better.
    I think you need to provide some options to the user, to choose colours, and sizes of text and symbols.
    7. “Favourites” has far smaler text than the old “Landmarks”. This is too small, and again, you should provide options for people who need it bigger. (Also, please provide documentation about how you expect we will use “collections”. What’s this for - is it another kind of category (.e.g. Work Locations etc)?
    8. It’s a pity that you hide away the “fastest” and “shortest” options in settings. It should be easier to switch between these, whenever you use drive, as at different times people want different settings, and you need to be aware whenever you use “Drive” of which setting its currently using. I’ve been caught out sometimes with a very complicated route because it was still set to “shortest” when I wanted “fastest”. When you select “drive” it should show the currently selected option, such that you can either leave it as it is, or change it. This would be an easy but big imrpovement to usability.
    That’s all for now, but I may have more later.

    Comment by Geoff — February 12, 2008 @ 3:08 am

60. I am currently living in Johor Bahru, Malaysia and frequently use the navigation feature when driving around in Malaysia and Singapore.

    The new version 2.0 seems very much improved and I was looking forward to an improved navigation experience as well. I am surpriced to find that the navigation feature for Singapore/Malaysia has been removed in the update. Will navigation for Singapore/Malaysia be included later and if so also during the beta period ?. I know that the “Walk” navigation probably need quite some additional information, but could it not be possible to have “Drive” navigation only then for Singapore/Malaysia as is already possible in version 1.2 ?

    Furthermore after the update (without any problems) I decided to erase all my maps and then downloaded them again using maploader 1.3.5, just for good measure. I found that the map files were smaller in size, which I concluded could have been due to better compression or similar, however I found that this was because the detailing has been decreased. Many streets in Johor Bahru have been removed, including my home address, and Singapore only show streets with blue background and not the nice detailing of green areas etc as in version 1.2. Maybe a bug?.

    I rolled back to version 1.2 and downloaded maps again and then re-updated to version 2.0. By doing this I then had the “old maps” again, but still missing the navigation.

    For now I am back with version 1.2, but hope the Singapore/Malaysia is included again such that I can start using version 2.0

    Comment by Soren — February 12, 2008 @ 5:15 am

61. drop the search box, it takes up screen space. it should only display when you start to type. only briefly tested so far but when i did a search for my local pub (by name) it suggested a place with a similar name in Singapore, this was in the ‘walk’ result. thats probably about a 6000 km walk from where i am! it seems better in may ways so far but i really dont like the search box on display all the time.

    Comment by Mark — February 12, 2008 @ 6:13 am

62. The version 2.0 still does not mute if the phone is on silent profile!
    But else works great.

    Comment by Alex — February 12, 2008 @ 10:15 am

63. Looks great!

    My e90 inner display seems to be the buttons on the right in wrong order… (Finnish language).

    I like a lot of sports tracker auto update… Better to be with this also…

    : Sam

    Comment by SamTheMan — February 12, 2008 @ 10:21 am

64. Good comments, Geoff [59]. Please, Nokia, take note of the UK Post Codes request. This really is the quickest, simplest way to enter and seasrch for an address. Much of the time British users will have a post code to enter.

    Also agree regarding the interface changes and colour - this is a backward step on Maps 2.0

    Comment by Jezzer — February 12, 2008 @ 10:26 am

65. My 3 yr. license is not accepted with this. When I try to enter license code it says something like “License is already in use”.
    Can we clear the argument here?
    Will we be able to use our prev. license with this? (I mean both drive & walk) or past license can only work as “walk” ?

    Comment by levent — February 12, 2008 @ 10:54 am

66. Has the free tool, calculate route been pulled then ? thats very disappointing if so

    Comment by PAul — February 12, 2008 @ 1:20 pm

67. Very interesting update. Though seems to be not so easy UI as earlier version. Cannot see any satelite view (E90 latest firmware). The biggest problem is the very small text which is impossible to read in the car when you are driving. The speed figures etc should be diplayed MUCH BIGGER so you can read them without problems. Otherwise promising improvements.

    Comment by Nickem — February 12, 2008 @ 1:30 pm

68. @levent:
    I did not have to re-enter my 3-yr license. It was automatically accepted.

    @Paul:
    I am also missing the calculate route function. Will this come back in future versions?

    Comment by Evert Jan — February 12, 2008 @ 1:45 pm

69. @ Jan - looked at older posts seems others are missing too, it would be extremely disappointing if they pulled this!

    Comment by Paul — February 12, 2008 @ 1:49 pm

70. To calculate a route do the following:

    Select a place. Add–> to route
    options–> add stopover
    Select a new place
    Make sure the transport mode is right, or change it and go back to go back to the route
    Options—> show route

    Comment by James King — February 12, 2008 @ 1:55 pm

71. @ James

    Thanks mate, slightly over complicated compared to old maps though

    Comment by Paul — February 12, 2008 @ 2:01 pm

72. James, is there any way to get just word directions, all i can see is the map directions, if you remember there was a screen of step by step words

    cheers for all help
    Paul

    Comment by Paul — February 12, 2008 @ 2:05 pm

73. Paul - no, I can’t see an option to do that.

    I do remember that option but never used it… I only got my phone on Saturday!

    Comment by James King — February 12, 2008 @ 2:33 pm

74. On E90:
    - VERY slow on internal large screen (Google Maps is fast and smooth, but internal Nokia developers don’t even come close…)
    - reversed buttons (as mentioned in other posts)
    - very small fonts = unreadable in car
    - downloaded data counter cut in half, bottom half invisible
    - somehow navigation does not work for Poland any more (it did in ver. 1) - you could post that info here, so I do not install software that breaks what worked before
    - automatically activated 3-day trial without even asking me

    To summarize - this seems like early alfa, not beta (never even tested on E90). VERY long way to go to even approach my TomTom on usability/interface/speed. Maybe on maps 5 this thing will be worth something…

    Comment by img — February 12, 2008 @ 3:17 pm

75. Why has the 3 year subscription been removed?..Other options are NOT available for the mapping.
    The price for a single year is too expensive.

    Comment by Anand Patel — February 12, 2008 @ 3:19 pm

76. Have to agree with some of the previous comments. This seems like alfa, not beta release, coded by in someone’s basement by a teenage kid.
    - On my E90 the buttons are reversed (they haven’t even tested in on the E90)
    - Data counter icon cut in a half, can’t see it properly (what a joke)
    - small unreadable fonts
    - simple navigation taken away
    - subscripton based navigation
    - search is a joke of all jokes. It could not find my bank which is 2km away from my house, instead it found another bank 10 km away!

    What a lame excuse for an app. I wonder what the Nokia boys are smoking. What idiot will pay subscription for navigation on a garbage product when you can just purchase tomtom, garmin, route 66 and use it forever?

    Memo to the coders: go have a look at proper software such as tomtom, garmin.

    SHAME NOKIA, SHAME

    Comment by cabby — February 12, 2008 @ 4:26 pm

77. […]

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78. As per post number 32, couldn’t get Nokia Map Loader 1.3.5 to connect on my N95 8GB too. Keeps saying internet connection was interrupted asking me to try again later.

    Comment by Andy Q — February 12, 2008 @ 4:58 pm

79. In previous version maps for Macedonia and city of Skopje were detailed although outdated. New version has very few details for Skopje, Macedonia even whole Balkan peninsula.
    When will satellite maps be available for pc download (not only for phone download)?

    Comment by Toni Srbinoski — February 12, 2008 @ 5:36 pm

80. By the way, several phones have the zoom buttons on the side. How come they don’t work with Maps (to zoom, obviously)?

    (I’m not suggesting replacing */#, but to work alongside them)

    Comment by Lasse — February 12, 2008 @ 5:42 pm

81. As per post number 32, couldn’t get Nokia Map Loader 1.3.5 to connect on my N95-1 too. Keeps saying internet connection was interrupted asking me to try again later.

    Comment by John Harrop — February 12, 2008 @ 6:30 pm

82. […] Here are some tips provided by official Nokia Beta Labs Blog […]

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83. Well, call this software Alpha release since it does not deserve to be called beta. Shame Nokia. Navigating is unreliable, completely unreliable. Today I plotted a trip of about 200km. I could not get Nokia Maps to place me on a road. “Not on a road” was in my screen. Though it seemed the route was calculated. Driving about 2km and let Nokia Maps plot a route home was no problem. Recalculating to my destination 200km further on gave the same message: “Not on a road”. Sorry, this navigation software is a complete buggy peace of crap. Not worth one Dollar.

    Comment by Cybertown — February 12, 2008 @ 9:05 pm

84. Interesting new release, using it in the UK on my Nokia E90.

    Is there an official beta forum I can participate in so I can submit bug reports etc. on a more formal basis?

    I’ve participated extensively in beta programmes for other (unrelated) vendors in the past.

    Comment by Ben Rose — February 12, 2008 @ 10:12 pm

85. To add to my previous post, zoom-in barely works on E90 internal screen - Shift + 8 = * - not very comfortable. Zoom-out does not work at all, so you better zoom in wisely

    And I think this is not a good idea to use at least 10% of screen estate for “always on” search bar, useless 99% of a time. Most Nokia phone screens are small and low res (320×240 is a step backward from E60/70).

    This should definitely be an Alpha release, I am pretty sure it was never tried even once on E90 - the flaws are just to obvious.

    Comment by img — February 12, 2008 @ 10:31 pm

86. put back satellite status like as it was before.

    i wanna choose which categories to show on map without searching like as it was before.

    when im scrolling on the map, there is too much delay to show new areas when compared to old version in which there was no delay like this

    Comment by saracg — February 12, 2008 @ 11:38 pm

87. I must agree with #59

    The Maps 1.0 Interface is better to use and better to read. Please change this in final version or implement customizaton for the user interface.

    Comment by Tom — February 12, 2008 @ 11:49 pm

88. Upgraded to 2.o, but i lost my 3 year licens ! Contacted Nokia support in Denmark, but they could NOT help me. Then i bought a 30 days licens, and it works okay. It would be great if i could download sat maps with map loader, now i have to “pay” because i use 3g/grps.

    Peter

    Comment by Peter Nielsen — February 13, 2008 @ 12:24 am

89. In my Nokia E50 after update to beta 2.0 Nokia Maps doesn’t run anymore. Also there’s no icon. Hope they fix that in the final version. Also, can i use the beta maps with the 1.2 application?

    Comment by Breno — February 13, 2008 @ 1:09 am

90. is the 3 day trial one time thing 4 each device? I used it on th previous version now i can’t try it out? Is it possible to get another free trial?

    Comment by wendy — February 13, 2008 @ 1:10 am

91. Further comments following my earlier ones at#59 above:
    1. A usability bug which is a very significant annoyance remains from Maps 1.0 - please will you fix it in 2.0 - as follows: When selecting Addresses from Contacts, on pressing search, it refuses to search unless a Country name is entered every time a selection is made, and has no default. The Country name is a long list and takes time to select. This is very tedious. Please change this so that if the country name is blank, it uses the last used, a default, or the last country detected via GPS.
    2. On a related note, please add “From Contacts” to the main Search page, instead of under “Options” within the Address Search. There is room on the Search page, and the ability to search from contacts is an obvious plus for a phone-based Navigation product, over a dedicated product. So don’t hide it away like an afterthought that takes more keypresses to use - put it there on the main search page.
    3. There is a bug when using Routes, that crashes the N95 and causes it to reboot itself.
    4. On the the “Route” page, the entry labelled “Drive is misleading. This in fact takes you to Route settings, and should be labelled accordingly.
    5. Whereas the new GPS indicator now provides more signal strength information, it’s hard to see, especially when driving and it’s against a light map background with full signal strength. A much simpler, more informative and easier to read indicator would be to show the number of satellites, like Google Maps does. One digit is all that is needed.
    6. Instead of having to press Options key to go to commonly used functions, like “Show Route”, wouldn’t it me much neater to offer also a shortcut of using the greeen phone button as a “Go” “Select” or “Yes” key, like for example you can in the Messages Application? This button could be very useful yet is surprisingly neglected by application developers.
    7. The “Route Info” facility is a nice new addition, but:
    a. On the N95 there is a highlighted rectangle over “Trip distance” (which can be moved using the cursor) but which is much too light coloured and makes it very hard to read to information it covers.
    Also, the cursor movement is not properly implemented - you can only move using the right and left on the joystick and not up and down.
    Further, the select button does nothing - you have to press “options” to access “Reset”. Please change this so that pressing the select button brings up the question “Reset?”. This would be much more intuitive.
    b. It provides information which would be most useful at the end of the journey - BUT it is only available in drive mode, and as soon as you reach your destination, drive mode ends and the Route Info option is no longer available. Please will you change this so that the data from the last “Drive” is retained and can be accesses, and ideally saved or exported (maybe in CSV format) to another application such as a Spreadsheet or Expenses log.
    8. The “Maps Tutorial” option on the N95 does nothing.
    9. I’m pleased that other people have endorsed my comments in #59 above, especially the postcode issue in the Search box. I can’t over-emphasise the importance of providing this for UK users. Google Maps does this - so I’m sure Nokia Maps developers can compete with Google’s people, and provide the same functionality!
    10. The convenient keyboard shortcuts only work in Drive mode, because when not in drive, it defaults to Search box input. Please provide an option to toggle the Aearch box open and closed, and when closed, provide the keyboard shortcuts that aren’t dependent on Drive mode - for example 2d-3d toggle, day-night toggle, volume, Route Info (see 7 above) etc.

    Comment by Geoff — February 13, 2008 @ 1:42 am

92. […] the Beta Labs Blog, Nokia provides 2 […]

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94. I purchased the “walk” navigation for 1 year and tried it out today on my way home from work. It did not pick any side streets , paths or footbridges…it just directed me by the main roads!….it was set to “by foot” and not “car”……is this actually going to work , and if not how do I get a refund as it does not seem to do what I purchased it for?

    McBrucie

    Comment by McBrucie — February 13, 2008 @ 2:13 am

95. I love the way that new Nokia apps have this whole blackness to them some really great looking user interfaces. I’ve noticed this was also the case with the Internet Radio application which had taken elements such as the battery indicator to something quietly different.

    On that note, is there a theme set available with these black ideas in? Transparencies / fonts included? My phone is N95v20 if that helps.

    Comment by Mark Dyson — February 13, 2008 @ 2:56 am

96. So where are the New Zealand navigation maps??? We’re still left out! I got my new nokia n-series for NOTHING!

    grrr…

    Please, nokia maps team get navigation for New Zealand!

    Comment by NZer — February 13, 2008 @ 7:17 am

97. I would like to see an option to choose the data connection every time the app starts (as is possible in other apps like the browser), as depending on where I am I want to choose between WIFI or GPRS connections. At the moment this means going into the settings each time.

    Comment by fr — February 13, 2008 @ 12:01 pm

98. map 2.0 is very good,i love it! but some features could be better or are missing:

    -when i choose the walk feature, most times there is not the possibility to walk through pedestrian streets, if the programm calculates the route it shows a longer way around the pedestrian zones, it should calculate the direct way
    -walk feature (the feature i only use beacuse i have no car) Time to destination is not very exact (it would be great if it recalcs depending on the walking speed and stores the middle walking speed)
    -there should be a description of the path (next streets to destination and so on) to choose….as a list or so
    -there should be different driving or walking styles , walk fast, middle, slow
    -voice commands for the walk feature would be also great
    -would be great, if you could choose the way of calculating the route like fastest way, shortest way, directly way
    -maybe a flag it function to store/save locations i pass
    -maybe a possibility to store home/work

    Comment by Lars — February 13, 2008 @ 12:07 pm

99. in new nokiamaps 2.0 missin licens for easterneurope

    Comment by rapid — February 13, 2008 @ 12:49 pm

100. […] Nokian beta-sivuston blogista löytyy keskustelua aiheesta. […]

     Pingback by Nokia Maps 2.0 beta julkaistu | GPSforum.fi — February 13, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

101. In the new noka maps 2.0 missing licens for Eastern europe

     Comment by jozo — February 13, 2008 @ 1:16 pm

102. in Finnish E90 some options( valinnat) are in Finnsh and other in English. Typical Nokia finnengelska.
     Search, Favourites, Oma sijainti, Karttatila, Liikenne tiedot, Työkalut

     what is the text below the gps indicator? is it even menat to be readeble.

     as written in earlier postings by E90-users; the texts and the buttoms inside are wrongly: Buttom withOptions (valinnat) is cancel (poistu).

     with e90 and bigger inside screen you can zoom with shifs; right (+) and left (-)

     its seems that the old proglem is back; takes loooooong time to be connected with satelites. is there any network helps with this maps 2. phones firmware is the newest one.

     Comment by Started with 9000 — February 13, 2008 @ 1:25 pm

103. Did a quick drive test from work to home and everything worked nicely. Oke, occasional it crashes on the N95 classic, but not yet while driving. A longer test will happen this weekend, it’ll show if the routing code has been improved.

     Comment by snoyt — February 13, 2008 @ 1:29 pm

104. Have just downloaded Maps 2.0 Beta and when I re-download a city guide and enter the License Code it says ‘License Code not Valid’ (or something like that). Any suggestions cos I don’t want to purchase it again!

     Comment by Phil — February 13, 2008 @ 2:18 pm

105. missing menu- not use offroad

     Comment by jozo — February 13, 2008 @ 2:32 pm

106. I dont think Nokia tested this on E90..probably because..they know that E90 is Nokia unloved baby…and best forgotten child.

     Comment by Karhu — February 13, 2008 @ 2:56 pm

107. Looks great, but there are search problems, especially with UK postcodes: type in my neighbouring postcode and it shows on the map as being several miles away (which it isn’t).
     Also, where’s the Start Simulation button?
     After testing this beta version, went to Applications on the N95 and the original Nokia Maps was there, saying it had not been installed. When I installed it I got the original version back, thank goodness. Will wait until all the issues have been fixed, me things!

     Comment by jon — February 13, 2008 @ 3:03 pm

108. Hi there,

     thanks a lot, but I am desperately missing the navigation in Eastern Europe. What’s up with that? Is it going to be there in the final release?

     Thanks and regards,
     Corwin

     Comment by Corwin — February 13, 2008 @ 5:10 pm

109. @jon[107] - when showing a route on the map, press the joystick to get to simulate
     Just got a reboot when adding a new route.
     Also lost my license.

     Comment by penfold — February 13, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

110. Well done for an excellent product.
     I successfully installed the update, and updated the maps and licence on my N95 with no problems.
     I use the satnav feature a lot while driving so was pleased with the improvements made. The new Blocked function for recalculating a route is very useful, but for safer driving it should be directly mapped to a grid key and not put in a sub menu.
     The satellite status indicator is much more useful than the previous versions as (I presume) it shows the number of satellites / fix quality.
     I also tried the new Walk feature and found it useful - it would be good to merge this with the Sports Tracker application.
     A ‘must have’ upgrade if you’re an N95 owner.

     Comment by biskits — February 13, 2008 @ 5:19 pm

111. “Nokia sees that location based experiences, such as mapping and navigation are to be a fundamental platform in mobile devices going forward.”

     Nokia should sort this out then.

     I’m afraid it hasn’t persuaded me to replace Google maps on the active standby shortcut, not by a long way. It’s still too slow and the map is quite ugly, not nice to use at all.

     Also why restrict “my location” to GPS? GPS rarely works, at least on N95. Google maps finds the location within a couple of seconds through the NW - accurate enough at least to save having to manually go to wherever you are at to seach for things.

     Comment by brian martin — February 13, 2008 @ 7:16 pm

112. Great job guys! Many improvements… By far my favorite navigator.

     The only thing I think its important to reconsider is adding alarm (visual / sound) when approaching POIs (like speedcamera alerts).

     That would be great!

     Comment by Daniel Ferretti — February 13, 2008 @ 8:13 pm

113. When I use the “*” and “#” to zoom, it does not zoom just one step, but to the closest/most far position. Tried it on n82.
     /Anders

     Comment by Anders — February 13, 2008 @ 8:50 pm

114. My N95 are still swithing off after mark and changes “categories” at Maps 2.0 , as it happens on Maps1.0 …

     Comment by Pavel — February 13, 2008 @ 8:58 pm

115. An idea: When adding a new appointment in calender, please make it possible to navigate to that appointment. It would be a nice feature for a sales rep. visiting different persons/companies. I visit many new customers, so instead of typing it twice, just navigate to appointment.

     Peter

     Comment by Peter Nielsen — February 14, 2008 @ 1:14 am

116. Not a bad job, keeping in mind that it is a beta. I particularly agree with the majority of comments made by Geoff in #59 and #91.

     Some issues I have noticed (Using N95 8GB latest FW):

     1. When searching, the predictive text function is not right. That is, there is no way that I can see to select a different word. If you type in ‘he’ but wanted ‘if’ you don’t seem to be able to change the word using the (*+) key.

     2. Search also returns some strange results. If I have a GPS fix on my location and search for Mongolia (looking for Mongolian BBQ restaurant) I get the following results;
     FAV: Shows 4 results but they are really just 2 I have saved and then duplicated by the search. It should easily be able to tell that the 2 search results are the same as my saved landmarks.
     WALK: Shows 2 results, however, they are not the 2 landmarks I saved. Moreover, they are not walking distance being 17,200km and 17,900km away and they are overseas! At least I will have built up an appetite by the time I get there.
     Guide: shows 7 results ranging from 8,700km to 18,000km.
     PLACES: Shows 25 results. 4 of those are in Australia (where I am) ranging 325km to 1,000km away. The rest are overseas up to 12,200km away.
     Clearly those sorts of results are ridiculous, by foot I would not want to see more than maybe 5km and maybe about 10-15km by car and I think that would be the extreme.

     3. I don’t like the fact that I cant scroll when navigation is going (unless I am missing something here). I find it useful to be able to scroll ahead when stopped in traffic to get an idea of where I am going or sometimes to decide if I want to choose an alternative route. Obviously this functionality was take away because the left/right cursor is used to change views, however, I think the click to view option is fine.

     4. I haven’t had a chance to check the maps in a large city but the maps in the little town I live in have gone backward. In Armidale, NSW, Australia, Lynches Rd continues to Kellys Plains Rd and did so on the previous maps but not these. Proctor also continues to Lynches and Judith does not break. As they are in this version, it reflects the old map from about the 1950’s. a quick look in Sydney and Brisbane seems to indicate that the maps are current, there also seems to be more, and more accurate, POI’s for both those cities.

     5. its not clear to me how Fav Routes work. Already stored in the Fav routes folder is ‘Drive [no motorway]’ but I did not enter this nor can I see how to add to it. Maybe I’m blonde.

     6. We also seem to have lost the show route option that previously existed, again, I found this useful for planning. Maybe its still there and I’m having another blonde moment.

     7. I would love to know what specifically ‘Fastest’ ‘Shortest’ and ‘Economical’ mean. When I navigate to a point in my town the ‘fastest’ option is a very strange route. This is perhaps something to do with the street errors I mentioned above but the previous maps still showed a better way if I selected alternate route. Using either ‘shortest’ or ‘economical’ showed exactly the same route and is certainly a route I would choose but not the best. Again this might be to do with the map errors mention before.

     8. I’m not yet sold on the ‘Walk to’ thing yet as it just seems to plot a ‘Drive to’ route. Maybe it should plot ‘bread crumbs’ in red and white ‘bread crumbs’ for the actual walk. Example: if I plan a ‘Walk to’ from one side of a park to the other it just plans a route around the block instead of going through the park.

     Overall I think it’s a promising improvement and it will be very interesting to see the next beta. Perhaps we have been spoiled by the very good beta applications we have had of late but this version seems more alpha to me. I hope my comments help.

     Comment by Mark — February 14, 2008 @ 4:09 am

117. hello,

     when comes a version vor E65? (i have the lates SW 2.0633.65.01) but this doesen’t work.
     thx

     Comment by patrick — February 14, 2008 @ 11:00 am

118. It is scandalous, I bought a brand new phone (E65) just half a year ago, and it is already too old to run this app. I really really hope that the final version will support it - otherwise I know I should never buy another phone by Nokia, because Nokia just does not care about existing customers.
     And I event spent some Euros for navigation with the previous version of the maps!

     Comment by Petr J — February 14, 2008 @ 12:38 pm

119. on E90 internal screen I enter something into the search field and press Search (actually cancel as the softkeys are swapped). a message appears “searching online”. Under it the whole screen blinks while searching. My sw version is 200.34.70 (true sw)

     Comment by Lajos Kelemen — February 14, 2008 @ 3:50 pm

120. Nice application….needs tweaking here and there.

     Regarding TRAFFIC INFO, why not use the build in FM radio of most phones to get the TMC info that most navigation systems use, instead of this data heavy RTTI system you’ve implemented now.

     A TMC option would be free to use and not dependable on downloading data.

     /Jake

     Comment by Jake — February 14, 2008 @ 3:51 pm

121. On my E90 the buttons are reversed
     Very small almost unreadable fonts in some cases
     I found the show route option useful for planning and would like it again.
     The new Walk mode is interesting, but it aught to be a real walk mode
     I would like a possibility to easy delete unwanted (superfluous) items in Favourites and Addresses

     Comment by Ole — February 14, 2008 @ 6:35 pm

122. @Jake[120]: “…would be free to use…” I think you’ve stumbled on the impediment there. Technically, the FM receiver in the phones may not be able to interpret TMC data. Practically, that’d be removing one more source of income for them. They charge for every little aspect of this application (and on a subscription basis, too)! Using basic navigation over the lifetime of this phone (~3 yrs?) costs more than the phone itself.

     Comment by Phil — February 15, 2008 @ 12:24 am

123. Further to my post (107), this beta version seems to have buggered up UK postcodes on the original version which I re-installed. All postcodes now seem to be truncated, so, for instance, BS2 2GF now becomes BS2, which is as good as useless! Anyone got any ideas on how to get the full postcodes back??

     Comment by jon — February 15, 2008 @ 1:34 am

124. How can I uninstall nokia maps 2.0 from my N95 8G.The procedure mentioned above doesn’t work

     Comment by dorian — February 15, 2008 @ 11:13 am

125. WE WANT NEW ZEALAND DETAILED MAPS + NAVIGATION!

     For Gods sake, we’re smaller than australia and they still get full nav and detailed maps!!

     Comment by auckland — February 15, 2008 @ 2:34 pm

126. Topography maps would be nice feature. Most of the places where I would need navigation or “walking” feature right now (mountains etc.) don’t have any relevant information.

     Comment by Juho — February 15, 2008 @ 2:46 pm

127. hey could some 1 please tell me if there is anyway to get the new 2.0 to work on the N73
     if this app is for the N series then y does it not support N73
     Please Help

     Comment by Brent Kruger — February 15, 2008 @ 4:33 pm

128. Though Generally speaking Nokia Maps 2.0 is a pretty impressive application, including pretty neat UI features, there are quite a few things to be improved as well. For instance, speed, especially scrolling across the map (and it’s not just loading the tiles, I mean smoothens of the UI more). Also I would wish, that Nokia would go trough Garmin’s iQue Pocket PC application for reference, for instance, their “3D map” feature is really well implemented compared to Nokia’s. For instance I don’t need the clouds Nokia is giving on the upper part of the 3D view, but all the space on the screen is important.

     Another thing, which could make Nokia Maps really stand out, would be inclusion of some, atleast some simple, topologymap features in detailed map views. It shouldn’t be too hard, and make map much more usefull for a pedestrian use. Another cool idea, which I really would like to see, is one where I could search for other Nokia Maps users… or I could select certain Nokia Maps users to be shown at the map. All the hardware for such feature should be allready there, so why it’s not included, it’s so obious and cool?

     Comment by Juho — February 15, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

129. I really would like to say that this application is greatest that I’ve ever used but I cant. It doesnt work on my E65. I hope you guys fix it soon.

     Comment by Don — February 15, 2008 @ 6:47 pm

130. Hi,
     I downloaded de 2.0 sis file.
     I bspcially bought a 4GB micro SD card for my N81.
     But even with an empty memory card, I cant install teh sis fie: ” memory card full ”
     This is useless!!!!! Who can help me?
     regards.

     Comment by Rene — February 15, 2008 @ 7:32 pm

131. CNet reviews Nokia 6210 Navigator GPS phone

     I don’t have a car, so driving navigation features are useless to me. I found that the Mio H610, even though it’s called the DigiWalker, was not great as a pedestrian navigator - lacking a compass, I followed its guidance

     Trackback by Richard's Tech Reviews — February 15, 2008 @ 9:27 pm

132. Hello,
     Don’t know if anybody else have noticed quite BIG BUG on software..
     I have purchased Western Europe for Maps and when I upgraded my software on
     my N95 8Gb to 2.0 beta and tried to put my licence code… there wasn’t that
     area anymore!!!

     Somebody has done something wrong…

     Comment by Mitro — February 15, 2008 @ 11:09 pm

133. I’d also like to add my voice to the requests for E65 support. It’ll be a big disappointment if this phone is not supported when only a few months old…

     Mark

     Comment by Mark Avey — February 16, 2008 @ 2:26 am

134. Does anyone know how to turn off categories??? I want to choose what i look at rather than just about everything..

     Comment by Tom — February 16, 2008 @ 3:04 am

135. I’ve used it now for 3 days on my Nokia N95 classic coupled to a Garmin GPS 10.and these are my findings:

     Installed fine and downloaded and installed the maps for the middle east without any difficulty.
     I like the interface, i find it clear and informative.

     What i really don’t like is the fact that when navigating it zooms in too close so i can actually see on the map what the next turning is. What i would really like to see is auto zoom to allow the zoom level to automatically change to allow me to see my current position and the next turn, but still allowing me to manually override the zoom level.

     It is still not possible to set the map to show direction up it will still only show north up unless you have set a route.

     Some of the instructions are a bit bizarre. In particular the instruction ‘at the next possibility turn left’ Why not just say take the next left?

     It would also be great if as well as telling you which turn to take it tells you a sign post direction. e.g. take the third exit signposted Airport.

     When you purchase the navigation option in the Middle East it still does not show you correctly what currency you are being charged in.

     Comment by Dave — February 16, 2008 @ 10:49 am

136. Can anyone explain to me why my West European license doesn’t seem to work anymore? I can’t use it for any other then Benelux, but it seems it’s not accepted too. End of the line: I can not navigate anymore since my upgrade. This is really an issue for me so please give me an advice.

     Comment by roma — February 16, 2008 @ 4:24 pm

137. it worked just 1 day when i downloaded it and that’s it.. now the maps cant find any satelites… left for the night under 45 degree next to the window as it supposed to be and still nothing.. tried in different places for different time..the same

     N95 8gb
     last FW

     Comment by Vlad — February 16, 2008 @ 10:44 pm

138. New Zealand maps please.

     Comment by James — February 17, 2008 @ 11:46 am

139. I was quite disappointed when I bought it recently only to find that New Zealand maps were severly incomplete, it was one of the reasons I purchased the phone. The NZ nokia website doesn’t even tell you this.

     Comment by Chris — February 17, 2008 @ 3:56 pm

140. I was really disappointed when I noticed that the 3-year Western Europe navigation license I bought some time ago is no longer valid. Ditto for the Eastern Europe (Baltic countries) license. Do I have to purchase all these countries again, separately each, and do it again after one year?

     Does anyone at Nokia understand what your paying customers might really want? I give you a hint… nothing like this!

     Comment by Vaino — February 17, 2008 @ 7:07 pm

141. Are the Bahama Islands map available for 2.0? Don’t see anything for the Carribean or Bahamas.

     Comment by Rob — February 17, 2008 @ 9:55 pm

142. On my N95 8GB the zoom is not working properly, or is this feature? While navigating it just zooms in or out for half second and then flips back. I cannot hold the zoom level I would like.
     And why changed the licenses? I would like to have West-Europe in one package, not buying each country, plus traffic included…

     Comment by TigertheGambler — February 17, 2008 @ 10:33 pm

143. Hi!
     Can’t be true that Nokia releases something like Maps2.0. It’s not even close to beta quality… It’s more like an early R&D version made by summer trainees.
     In E90:
     - exit and menu buttons are mixed on the PDA side
     - I cannot use navigation at all! If I’m using Search/Address, it let me to exit or look at the user manual only. There are no other alternatives available. I cannot use navigation or look at the location on map, for instance.

     The one who is responsible on releasing Maps2.0 must reconsider his position and responsibilities carefully! Releasing that kind of R&D version is very irresponsible and harmfully for the company.

     BR
     Jukka Nurminen, Nokia-D

     Comment by Jukka Nurminen — February 18, 2008 @ 1:02 pm

144. Hi,

     I tried using maps 2.0 on N95 while driving I also had navicore system running. My experience with both this system in use simultaneously is:

     1. Navicore however old (software version from 2005) has more data than the Nokia maps 2.0, I was looking for Ilmakuja (in Finland) this street has been existing for as far as I can remember.
     2. Application of Navicore to let user search for a street without requiring the street number is an excellent feature and should be added to Nokia maps2.0 as well

     3. On the application side the color and design on Nokia maps 2.0 looks much better than old version

     4. Fix is faster in my experiment than even navicore

     5. One feature which should be added is to automatically position to my current position (rather than asking for the user to select a option or press a key)

     6. Map’s 3D mode view is very good with blue sky visible in the background.

     7. Search option in the main view is a good addition.

     8. Why is country and City first choice (user is interested in street address first and this should be made as the first option)

     9.On the navigation side Nokia maps 2.0 seems to be ahead (a little ) to Navicore.

     Good work in improving the experience with Nokia maps2.0 but it is still not upto what it should so keep up the good work and do little more and you will reach very good stage.

     Chand

     Comment by Chand Malu — February 18, 2008 @ 4:23 pm

145. Hi,

     I’ve installed it without any problems on my N95 8GB.

     My only issue is that I can nolonger search on full 7 digit UK postcodes. It only uses the first 4 digits - taking you to the general area, not the street.

     Adrian

     Comment by Adrian Topp — February 18, 2008 @ 6:15 pm

146. Hi im having problem with the voice on voice navigation - i hear nothing. I have downloaded it when i was prompted to but no joy any ideas anyone?

     Comment by Christopher Hamer — February 18, 2008 @ 8:21 pm

147. Nokia, Please you have Australia. What about the little country next to it. New Zealand detailed maps please. I brought this N95 for its GPS to find that maps are rubbish! Very incomplete, its useless.

     Full New Zealand GPS maps please!!!!

     Comment by Chris — February 18, 2008 @ 10:10 pm

148. When will be nokia maps 2.0 ready for N73

     Comment by snark — February 18, 2008 @ 10:26 pm

149. Hey svahili we wan’t NK 2.0 on N73

     Comment by snark — February 18, 2008 @ 10:29 pm

150. Thanks for this great update!

     Nokia N82. Installed well.
     But Nokia Map Loader 1.3 say that installed maps on flash memory doesn’t compatible with maps from new Nokia Map Loader.
     So I can’nt load new maps with houses.
     Why?

     I’ve Russia localization.

     And second. I’d like useful mode in Nokia Maps such as following to Noth. So the map will rotate always by my movements noth.

     Comment by Konstantin — February 18, 2008 @ 10:57 pm

151. Oh dear, what a mess.The search option takes up too much screen, even on a big screen like N95 8GB. There is no option that i can find to remove POI’s like post offices etc. Too cluttered. And why have the constant reminder on screen of which keys zoom in and out? I think we can remember.

     Comment by Lee — February 18, 2008 @ 11:20 pm

152. MESSAGE TO MAPS 2.0 BLOGGERS - PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING.

     PLEASE don’t WASTE this opportunity to input into the development of Nokia Maps 2.0.

     In particular, please READ the KNOWN ISSUES list and Nokia’s FAQs, AND PREVIOUS POSTS before posting - and please, if its been said before, ask yourself whether its necessary to say it again. If you want your own post to be read, take the trouble first to read what others have already posted.

     In particular:

     1. PLEASE STOP POSTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE MAP DATA. The KNOWN ISSUES list says “New map data (upgrade via the new Map Loader) is also still in beta and, for example, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau are not drawn correctly.” So please don’t waste space in this blog continually complaining about it. Especially saying the same thing over and over again e.g. New Zealand, Pakistan etc. Enough already!

     2. E90 users - there’s clearly a big problem for you - but please don’t keep posting the same complaints over and over again. I’m sorry that you people have got a raw deal, but these problems appear to be isolated to particular devices such as the E90. Others have got a usable, testable product in MAPS 2.0 Beta.

     Having said this, it is NO CREDIT to Nokia developers that they have not yet made ONE SINGLE RESPONSE to this blog, more than a week after it was launched. If they had acknowledged the E90 issues in the blog, or in the “Known Issues”, it would have saved a lot of wasted time, and given some reassurance that this blog is actually being read by Nokia. The current appearance is that it is not.

     NOKIA Developers - do you have any interest in showing, even in the smallest way, that you ARE listening?????!

     Comment by Anon — February 19, 2008 @ 12:08 am

153. Following on from my comments at 59 and 91 above:

     In Favourites “Places” does not remember the sort order setting, and defaults to “By distance”. This is the least useful setting, It makes it hard to find the location I’m looking for as they move around the list depending on where I am. Also why would I want mostly to go to my nearest places?? A-Z is afar more useful sort order (as Maps 1.0 worked), that way the order stays the same and you can make sure frequently used places are near the top, by changing their name to put a number at the start.
     So please:
     a. Make it remember the sort order - whatever was last used.
     b. On the Favourites page there’s lots of unused space - use it to allow the user to add some quick “speed dial” shortcuts like “Home”, “Work” etc, right there on the favourites page, so that these can be selected quickly with minimal key-presses.

     Also, for phones that have Voice commands, please enable this inteface for MAPS 2.0. It should be easy to do, as the capability is already there in the phone’s firmware, and it would add a lot of convenience to be able to give a voice command to select say “Home” or “Drive Home”. Rival products do this.

     One annoyance is that there’s no longer any quick way to find out how long a jourmey would take when indoors where GPS won’t operate. Going into “Routes” is a lot more long winded. Please provide an option when in DRIVE mode, to select the start point, for when there’s no GPS signal, to provide a quick way to get an summary of the time and distance for a journey.

     Finally, I get a lot more “Not on a Road” messages now - where it refuses to calculate a journey because I’m in a car park. Then when I get to the road, I have to wait for it to calculate before I know which way to turn - not good, especially if there are cars behind me! Maps 1.0 was better in this respect - it calculated from the nearest road, and very rarely said “not on a road”. Please restore this way of working. (Afterthought - I suppose this might be a maps data issue).

     P.S. I agree with previous posts that the “Walk” option needs to recognise walking rights of way, for example across squares and through parks. Without this, it’s of limited value and a bit of a gimmick - which would be a shame, as it’s an obvious use for phone-based navigation.

     Comment by Geoff — February 19, 2008 @ 12:37 am

154. one week & 153 comments. no response from Nokia maps team. keep up the “good” work…

     Comment by jhgkjh — February 19, 2008 @ 4:13 am

155. @jhgkjh - 1. This week was Mobile World Congress, and seeing as how Maps was launched there, I would guesstimate that a few of the team was on hand at the 4-day event, in a different country than their office.
     2. 153 comments, but how many of them were A. E90 owners saying the softkeys are messed up or B. People asking when a version would be out for non-Feature Pack 1 devices (or ranting because it doesn’t work on their N70)?
     3. How many people who’ve downloaded the app realized they were downloading BETA software that is known and quickly admitted to have bugs?

     Comment by Ricky — February 19, 2008 @ 5:11 am

156. The map of Singapore has inverted colors in the 2D Map view.

     Comment by K.Poppe — February 19, 2008 @ 6:19 am

157. Hi,
     Planned a route with
     http://lomakartta.lomasuomi.fi/reitti.asp
     betweeen Tampere and Oulu, 476km.
     Same route with same starting points with Nokia Maps 2 is 486km. Not a big difference but Nokia Maps should be the same or better:)

     Comment by Lajos Kelemen — February 19, 2008 @ 10:12 am

158. Hi Devs,

     Hope you are reading the comments. I have tried it out, and i must say i am very happy with this app comparied to the last version. Just one more thing to develop.

     “Include the ability to download satellite images via map loader. Here in Aust data costs are thru the roof”

     Cheers

     Comment by Matt — February 20, 2008 @ 1:07 am

159. Following on from my comment above in 153, I’m very glad to see that Nokia Develops HAVE now responded, very positively, here: http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/tag/maps/

     Comment by Geoff — February 20, 2008 @ 1:25 am

160. WHERE IS UKRAINE?????????????????

     Comment by Eugeny — February 20, 2008 @ 1:53 am

161. Further to my comments in #116

     N95 8GB latest FW.

     1. I really miss the fact that I cant scroll the map when I am navigating. I actually forgot how much I do this until a trip over the weekend. Why do I do it? If I am driving and I need a petrol station I generally scroll to the next petrol station (POI) to see if it’s Caltex (my account is with them) but now I have to wait until I approach the service station (if its on the route) which can be too late on a motorway. If I’m not on a motorway the service station might be a block or two away, in this instance I would be forced to stop my trip, stop navigation and then scroll to see if it’s the right station. I realise I could search before I make a trip but it doesn’t always happen like that. The same applies for ATM’s etc Please bring back the option to scroll while navigating, back. I’m happy to just click the button to go to views.

     2. I also realise that the maps data (v2.0) are known to have issues, however, when scrolling through a map it is very slow and not very smooth.

     3. Zoom in or out does not work while navigating.

     4. It would be great if we could just go to a website and choose the maps we want instead of having to use Map Loader. As with most Nokia software that requires a web connection it fails to prompt for a proxy password. I’m not just talking about beta products either. Let me tell you it takes a long time to download a major city over a GPRS connection. Its 3G when I get there but that’s too late.

     5. The cost of navigation really is over the top. Maybe KFC, or similar, could subsidise the cost of navigation with a BRIEF pop-up alert when they are being approached during navigation.

     6. Even though it is beta I think some sort of documentation describing new features, or changes to existing feature, is required.

     It looks as though it will be a great product when it gets to release. Keep up the awesome job that you have been doing in Beta Labs. I really feel for you with all the ignorant raves from those who don’t know what beta release means. Maybe you could make people pass a quick test before being allowed to download lol!

     Comment by Mark — February 20, 2008 @ 2:37 am

162. I have been using it constantly in Mexico, and it has worked great. I believe it is a good upgrade over the previous version, just think that the internal screen of the E90 is not used to it’s fullest.

     I also believe that the feature to have the route in text only for navigation was great to have. I hope that makes it to the final release.

     Another small issue that has happened in real use situations is that I’ve pressed the “hang up” button by accident, and maybe it is a good idea to change that. It is not too convenient to be lost and then press that accidentally.

     And finally I second post 158

     “Include the ability to download satellite images via map loader.”

     That would be great. Thanks for letting us post the feedback here.

     Comment by Artemio Urbina — February 20, 2008 @ 4:50 am

163. Firstly, I can’t comment on the Maps 2.0 as I found out too late that I can’t load the Beta on my E61! However, I was impressed by the screen shots, and listed improvements. The comments clarifying some things have made me doubt some of them. First, cost seems to be an issue (and no, I don’t want to advertsing pop-ups to subsidise it!), but if a full map of Europe isn’t available then that’s a big no. (I have my doubts about the existing maps, as it couldn’t find a route from the UK to Sweden!).

     But one small point, Nokia: please don’t use the term ‘ZIP code’ - that’s a US-only acronym. Please use a generic ‘postal code’ or ‘post code’.

     I was hoping to get a new Nokia phone soon that would allow me to use Maps 2.0, but I’m not so sure now.

     Chris

     Comment by Chris — February 20, 2008 @ 10:37 am

164. Where is the license menu for Eastern Europe Nokia Maps 2.0?
     I can’t apply my 3 years registration.

     Comment by Peter — February 20, 2008 @ 3:22 pm

165. For Hong Kong the language used is now Pin Yin. In previous versions (before 1.3) it was correct, i.e English conversion of Cantonese or localized English names. This applies to street names and many location names. Example, my steet was correctly shown before as ‘To Yuen St.’ which is how it is shown on local street signs, maps etc. The 1.3 and later Nokia maps now shows it as ‘Tao Yuan Jie’ which is the Pin Yin version. This makes the Nokia map virtually useless for local users and vistors since the names don’t match the local convention.

     Comment by Doug — February 20, 2008 @ 5:07 pm

166. One more comment. If you receive a call while navigating its no problem to answer the call but you don’t get the option to switch between handset and loudspeaker. Obviously you would want to use the loudspeaker because you are driving.

     N95 8GB v15 FW

     Comment by Mark — February 21, 2008 @ 1:01 am

167. Very creative routing and rerouting algorithm - like in true art, you never know where you are taken to in the next turn. Hopefully after these artist programmers some more traditional, more logic oriented ones get a chance, too.

     Comment by emeritus — February 21, 2008 @ 1:58 am

168. I updated the beta version of nokia maps on the n82 and lost
     my three months licence the phone displays i got the licence but when i will navigate i must purchage a licence can anyone help with this

     Comment by anton — February 21, 2008 @ 10:05 am

169. Since 2001 I have had different GPS. This Maps beta is absolutely the worst of all I’ve seen suggesting amazingly idiotic routes both in “fastest” and “shortest” mode.

     Comment by emeritus — February 21, 2008 @ 10:22 pm

170. Hey people, does maps 2.0 Work with 6110. It goes to install on the phone then does nothing. Not a thing!

     Comment by Daniel — February 22, 2008 @ 2:44 pm

171. I just bought the route66 new navigator 8 software DVD wit
     western europe for 120E i think thats the better deal looking
     also at nikias new price policy for the licencies

     Comment by anton — February 22, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

172. Following on from 59, 91, 153:

     1. There’s a Bug in the “Move” facility for stopovers. When selecting the place to move the location to in the list, pressing the joystick centre button does nothing - you have to press the left option “Select” key on the N95. The centre joystick button needs enabling as a “Slect” key as well - this would be easier and more intuitive. I found myself pressing the joystick button and wondering why nothing was happening!
     2. Good idea to show “Drive” or “walk” in the “route” panel to confirm the selected mode. But why stop there? As well as showing “Drive” or “walk”, why not show “fastest, “shortest” etc. - .e.g “Drive shortest” or “Drive economical”.
     Also, please put the ability to make these selections right there on the route panel - there’s space, and it would be easier and quicker.
     3. How about including a “calculate all” option, so that where the user is happy to wait, the phone will calculate time and distance for all three modes - quickest, shortest, economical, so that an informed choice can be made between these without having to keep re-calculating and trying to remember the results from the other modes?

     Comment by Geoff — February 22, 2008 @ 6:15 pm

173. First of all the new look of Nokia Maps 2.0 is great. But I have a few of comments (I’m running Maps 2.0 on a N82):
     - Different languages in the menu (e.g. favorites and search are both in english instead of dutch). All the categories in the search menu are displayed in english. Hopefully this will be corrected in the next version.
     - In the navigation mode the font size of the speed indicator is too small.
     - I’m unable to display the sattelite map? I was wondering if these maps are included in the maps from nokia map loader?
     - The zoom function does not work well. When I apply zoom out it will zoom maximal.
     - I prefer a seperate gps status window (e.g. with signal strength bars).
     - Please Nokia enable the centre joystick as select key!
     - Remove the exit button in the main view. Since it is very easy to close the application by accidant.
     - I looks like if the gps postion update interval is relatively long. Sometimes it will take a second to move to the new gps position. Is this caused by the gps (hardware)?

     Comment by Thom — February 22, 2008 @ 11:56 pm

174. hi,

     when i am connected to my bluetooth car kit with my N95 I do not have any navigation sound!

     it would be nice to- mute the radio before speech
     or better
     use the mobild phone speaker.

     Comment by Thomas Koglbauer — February 23, 2008 @ 11:39 am

175. For E90 users who don’t know how to zoom in/out using internal display you have to remember first beta Nokia Maps. Left SHIFT key zooms in, right SHIFT key zooms out. Thats it, so easy it is. You can also use BACKSPACE to zoom out.

     If you start typing to search field, you can’t use SHIFT key for zooming any more however.

     Comment by Cougar — February 23, 2008 @ 1:58 pm

176. Following on from 59,91,153:
     I’ve noticed a couple more bugs, as follows:
     A serious bug for uk users whereby only the 1st 4 characters of the UK post code are used in the search. This means that postcode searches are so inaccurate as to be useless. The UK post code is the single most used and most useful search citerion in the UK, and it is very important that you provide full 7 character postcode searching, in order to have a competitive product in the UK, and to avoid having a lot of very disappointed UK users.
     2. There is a bug that incorrectly estimates journey times in the UK, as much shorter than they can be in reality - at least in the Manchester area. In Maps 1, the estimated time was reassuringly generous, so that you were likely to arrive on time even if the traffic was quite bad. In Maps 2, you’d need to be travelling by helicopter, or at least seriously breaking the speed limits on a clear road with no traffic, in order to achieve most of the estimated journey times.

     Comment by Geoff — February 23, 2008 @ 8:53 pm

177. […] Here are some tips provided by official Nokia Beta Labs Blog […]

     Pingback by Nokia Maps 2.0 Beta | en.buweb — February 24, 2008 @ 11:54 pm

178. i can’t use “chinese” to search anything cos the key “1″ is a shortcut button.

     “Use the 1 key to change map modes (2D, 3D, Satellite, Hybrid)”

     Comment by yin — February 25, 2008 @ 3:57 pm

179. I’d also like to add my voice to the requests for E65 support.

     In any case, I would like to know from NOKIA if a) there are big technical problems for having this Maps 2.0 version in E65 (performance, hw, …) or b) it is a question of time (we will get support soon) or c) is just a commercial reason (pushing customers to buy a new telephone each 4 months).

     Thanks

     Comment by JAI — February 25, 2008 @ 5:09 pm

180. unable to install on 6120c, got update error.

     Comment by fs — February 25, 2008 @ 7:07 pm

181. In FAQ there are mentioned e.g. Gambia and Senegal maps. How can I find those? Not visible in Map Loader.

     Comment by Juha — February 25, 2008 @ 10:14 pm

182. I am sorry for the English. I have found out the following problem on E90 (and on stolen was too most). At the included navigation and at increase in speed> 80 km/hour navigation comes off on foot and navigation declares “is impossible because of high speed”
     Will solve this problem. Very much irritates. Pleases one that I have paid only one month.

     Comment by Andrew — February 25, 2008 @ 11:35 pm

183. I’m Kuala Lumpur, MY, installed @ e90. good looking features - cool:) Previous maps 1.2 - tried navigation for 3 days - working fine. Now with beta 2.0 - navi voice not support in MY. Please advice

     e90 -when run communicatior - big screen - wrong button assigned - EXIT label at the bottom but button to press is TOP (for options) for YES/NO ke is OK

     Comment by aar.e90 — February 26, 2008 @ 7:43 am

184. As mentioned by #14:

     Lately when I try to use the drive function with my active 1 month subscription all I get is “Calculating Route”. I even tried to get it to give me directions to drive straight down the street a few houses yet it still just sat there trying to calculate the route.

     Is there a fix for this isse?

     Comment by Decipher — February 26, 2008 @ 9:11 am

185. @182 - No problem here…I’ve seen 200KM/h

     Comment by Ben Rose — February 26, 2008 @ 12:36 pm

186. Can’t get the Map Loader to work at all (STILL)!!!
     I would’ve thought that a new iteration of software would have fixed this issue that has plagued many a N95 user!

     I got the N95 for two things….. Camera and GPS.

     I am now left with a half arsed phone cos the GPS has packed up!

     I should’ve never bothered… More trouble than its worth!

     Comment by Matt Prince — February 26, 2008 @ 1:50 pm

187. the error is in POI menu….
     When will be new maps version of Russia, Ukraina? as in Teleatlas versions or better?

     Comment by Alexey (Russia) — February 28, 2008 @ 3:43 am

188. I love it, and thanks for your ongoing development work.

     The only bug I’ve found is that when the displayed map is my home in Hong Kong and I search for “airport”, the results under “Walk” and “Drive” do not show Hong Kong Airport, but instead show airports in Thailand and Taiwan!

     Also, when the displayed map is a hotel in Nuremburg (where I’m going next month), and I search for “airport”, it does not show Nuremburg airport, only Munich.

     Comment by alcatraz — February 28, 2008 @ 11:49 pm

189. Hi,
     Does anyone from NOKIA actally answer any of the questions / problems posted on this blog ?
     I have not seen a single decent reply!!!

     i tried MAPS 2 on my nokia n95 (t-mobile uk) and everytime i tried to use navigate (and i do have the navigation option paid for) the software crashed back to the home screen.
     i cant use it at all for what i need so i have now gone back
     to MAPS 1, Which works great, i sold my PDA and tom tom to use nokia maps exclusively.
     is there anyone / any where i can actually post a bug report too ?
     Is ANYONE from NOKIA actually reading this ?

     Comment by Darran — February 29, 2008 @ 1:26 pm

190. > Is ANYONE from NOKIA actually reading this?

     Yes. Quite a few, actually. Here’s one reply straight from the horse’s mouth:
     http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/02/19/nokia-maps-20-beta-%e2%80%93-after-a-week/

     This comments thread is mostly a feedback channel for Nokia, not a support channel. You can write bug reports either here, or to the feedback form: http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/maps/feedback

     Anyway, I agree that we should improve the feedback channel. I guess we should take Bugzilla or something into use for serious bug reporting and tracking….

     Comment by Tommi Vilkamo — February 29, 2008 @ 3:02 pm

191. Again following 59, 91, 153 and 176 above:
     1. Unfortunately there are reliability issues when using this with the N95. Sometimes the program shuts down unexpectedly when setting up a route, and most inconveniently it sometimes reboots the phone while navigating.
     2. It does have quite serious problems at times when calculating routes, for example calculation of a route near my home in the UK comes out as follows:
     Economical: 13.6 miles, 20 minutes; Shortest: 9.7 miles, 21 minutes; Fastest: 16 miles 22 minutes.
     What do we make of that! “Economical” is faster than “Fastest”, “Fastest” takes longer than either of the other two, and “Shortest” is so much shorter than “Fastest” that even if it were to take slightly longer than “Fastest”, it might still be the best route.
     So:
     a: The calculations are obviously faulty or unreliable at the moment, and
     b. This highlights the need for some improved intelligence about types of route when calculating. Either Maps 2.0 needs to inform you of the distance and time for all three options whenever you calculate a journey so that you can then choose the best compromise (my favoured solution) for that particular route, OR it needs some fuzzy logic to make a better choice of the best route so that it doesn’t for example send you on a journey that is twice as long in distance for the sake of being one minute shorter in predicted time.
     P.S. 1. I know I’ve said it before, but the fact that Maps 2.0 currently only recognises the first 4 character of the UK postcode makes Maps 2.0 almost unusable in the UK. It’s exteremely frustrating to put in a full postcode that should pinpoint a location, and be given a location that is maybe two miles away! PLEASE fix this urgently, AND include the full 7 digit UK Post Code in the “one-box” search - which doesn’t recignise UK post codes at all at present - so for UK users isn’t a one-box search.
     2. Also, again I’ve said it before, but as there’s no reason for people to put a country name in their contacts for each person (unless the person isn’t in the user’s home country), MAPS really does need to assume a default when searching “From Contacts”. Currently it refuses to search until you’ve entered a country every time, which is very tedious and completely unnecessary.

     Comment by Geoff — February 29, 2008 @ 11:52 pm

192. >i tried MAPS 2 on my nokia n95 (t-mobile uk) and everytime i >tried to use navigate (and i do have the navigation option >paid for) the software crashed back to the home screen.

     Maps 2 requires requires firmware version 20.0.015. That isn’t available for UK T-Mobile phones, despite the fact that it was released over 3 months ago. You must be running Maps 2 on the old version of the firmware.

     I’d encourage you and all other UK T-Mobile users to get in touch with T-Mobile and tell them to get this problem sorted out. You can contact them here: http://www.mobile-phones.co.uk/contact-us.htm

     I contacted them myself and was told that discussions between Nokia and T-Mobile are “ongoing” and that it could be “quite some time” before the new version of the firmware is released.

     Both Nokia and T-Mobile need to m