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I have some of the issues that the people comment, It show a album for every track of the CD, in the past version it showed all the tracks of the same album in a single album also if there a tracks for different artist, now thats not working,

For the request:

Podcast Manager
The option to choose the audio output

Im thinking in change my audio player but you need to make it better...

Same issue as above with my N82. Takes ages to recognize the phone and scan all changes every time it is connected. In fact, it has crashed twice already without being able to sync new music. The ability to list the matches found as you type in the search field would be very useful (somewhat like the music client from the ooother company) So far, the app is building up pretty good, but still needs a lot of work. Make us proud as always, guys!

does this support an iPod or phones apart nokia?

it should have a plugin to support not only nokia phones, but others as well, we need something that would work for all, not to mention the ground it would cover to spread the word about nokia.

plus it should have a in built web browser..!!

Yuck!!!

If I have an album with a several artists (eg DJ mixed compilation) and sort by Album, I now see a seperate entry for each seperate artist that is on that album.

So now it doesn't seem possible to list compilations.

Big oversight by Nokia..

I live in England and I already have acess to the Music Store integated into the application.

Hi everyone. The latest version is up now - thanks for all your comments so far a lot of your ideas have made it onto our ‘backlog’.

Just a reminder to all Vista users: because of a bug in the original Beta you will need to MANUALLY uninstall any earlier versions of the Nokia Music PC Client before installing this new version.

The next update will be in about 6 weeks, and that is likely to be the ‘final’ Beta upgrade before our ‘formal’ release.

Nice i am downloading it ...some feature are still missing ...
very exciting.

YAY!!! Downloading now, super pumped to see what's new!

Ok, restarting helped. The files no work and Queue window works much better. Still don't like the expanding and collapsing all the time you move around in it.

How do I get the album art to show?

Also, I agree: the color scheme.. nah.. I like the charcoal/black style MUCH better.

NOKIA!!! This WAS a great appication, BUT you have ruined it! The black theme was in keeping with Nokia's phones and other applications so why have you removed it? The application is still too SLOW. It is now impossible for a normal user to find out how to get ALBUM ART! AND now all of my albums that are COMPILATIONS now appear as each separate track of the album, in the album view (this did not happen in the first beta). WHERE ARE THESE ONE HUNDRED CHANGES, (or have you been trying to make this appication worse in every way possible)! What were you thinking NOKIA! Take this application back and FIX IT. Then release a propper beta!

TESTE TESTE

TESTE 2

A couple of quick comments, and I'll come back for more:

1) Some/mosdt of my albums (don't have that many) that I had ripped with the old PC Suite Music Manager do not play. Says "File format not recognized". One album that I think I ripped with the same software (not sure though) plays fine

2) There are a lot of "leftover artefacts" when ever I scroll over something and click on things etc. Especially the Queue looks like a mess.

3) Also on Queue, I don't like how it keep expanding and colapsing the song informatio - very very annoying. I would recommend trying to put all information that you want to show on one or two rows and drop the expanding/collapsing (supposedly) eye candy that makes e.g. re-arranging songs on the que list rather annoying.

I have to admit I did not shut down and reboot my computer after installing. I'll try that now and see if any of these get fixed.

Ps. Have Dell Latitude D400 with Windows XP

Me hating the new visual scheme, too.
I'd prefer the look of the LifeBlog (N-series PC Suite).
Russian Tags, set in iTunes, were not seen properly.

When will E90 be supported?

The compilation bug behaves nothing like Winamp ATM... If you specify 'Various Artist' or something similar in the artist field in Winamp, Winamp works perfectly...

Also I think lack of video support is a huge mistake... Even if the Nokia Music Store doesn't offer video atm, think towards the future... In this day and age with iTunes and the like supporting weekly rentals and TV Shows, you guys are really falling behind the times...

support needed for:

1. Plugins
2. Add-ons
3. Visualizations
4. Podcasting client that synchronizes with the S60 podcasting client (that would be awesome)

Won't install on Windows 2003.

Never had any problems with Nokia Music Manager.

Nokia Music Beta 1 installed fine.
Nokia Music Beta 2 won't install, says I need "at least" XP or Vista. Sorry, but Win 2003 is actually "more than" XP.

Further to my previous post, can't use WMP10 with my n95 as Nokia doesn't make eAAC+ available for WMP10. WMP11 doesn't work on Windows 2003. So basically I'm left with an expensive phone, expensive OS and a crappy Nokia Music Manager app. Way to go.

bluetooth support?

Feature - convert audio format when transferring to mobile device. Most of my old music is in high bit rate MP3 but I would love to have it as eACC+ on my phone. I don't want to convert the music store, but I would love a conversion to take place when transferring the tracks, with a buffer to store the converted tracks for future use, and thus faster transfers, but with a function to automatically remove the oldest or least used tracks from this buffer when space on that drive gets low.

browsing songs should be made easier. Itunes browser is quite good and fast way to check things.

Why unknown things are listed first? Those are normally not in any meaningful order so they should be shown last. If I want to see list of my albums I'm not interested (or at least most interested) about unknown albums.

Most of the views make no sense at all. For example if I have albums view and I sort it by length column, what on earth is that result about. It is not songs from longest to shortest or anything like that it is a complete mess.

Tracks view seems to be one that has most of the columns I need, but it would still be nice to be able to choose which columns you want to see

im having n70 music edition , my mob is very slow to run any application i try to update latest mob updates from nokia site still very slow to open some times it hangs also. is there any sloution for this

it never made that play list. Spend 30min using 50% CPU and did nothing, nice.

geez i wish you guys would listen to my constant comments that your software never prompts for proxy password and cant even detect an open internet connection through the proxy. that being the case, how would i access the music store when available and how am i going to check and download the cover art. nokia is the ONLY software (that i have) that has this problem. even freeware software can do it for **** sake. considering that you see your company moving to be 'web service' i would see that as a serious floor and i imagine that there are many other corporate users who would face the same problem.

one other point. itunes manages to prompt me for the proxy password.

I would like to listen random songs from my collection (the way I also use in winamp and itunes), but that seems to be impossible with nokia music (or at least I haven't found a way to do it). I tryed to add all my 18000 songs to one play list to listen them with shuffle, it's now been doing that playlist for 20 mins no idea how long it will take.

I also notice that all my compilation albums now list each song inividually, is there an option i'm overlooking to fix that?

I have quite a few misc songs with no album name, now it puts them under unknown album but it has it separated also by artist. So there's 900 or so separate entries for all my songs that have no album name. Would prefer it to have one entry 'unknown album' with all songs that have no album title.

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I have tried this new beta, but I think it still a "heavy" application .It took 120Mb after startup, plus 15Mb by NokiaMserver.

The new software is wonderful so far, infact Its the best media players shipped with a portable media device in my opionion. When the store is up and running it would be great if we could buy prepaid Nokia Music Store cards to purchase music like iTunes Gift Cards. So far, the only problems I'm having with the software are speed and getting album art to show up on my 5310, otherwise its excellent. Keep up the great work.

Thanks for your comments so far. A couple of quick responses:

Device connection: This is a good point, and one we are working on. We are definitely looking at implementing a 'device cache' for a better connection experience as soon as we can

Colour change: Yes I know, not to everyones tatse but we have lots of positive feedback from our user testing - I guess the old 'N Series' colours suited N series users, but this app is for other Nokia users too. However, there may well be more design changes in the future and maybe even skins so you can choose your favourite scheme...

Compliation albums: There have been a few technical challenges getting the coalescence working on this view. We know the compliation album experience is a bit odd at the moment (it is working like WinAMp at the moment) but this should change soon.

Album Art: We will be offering automatic album art updates to users in a region with a STore as soon as the Store is launched. You select your Store region by selecting the 'location' from the first start-up screen

Performance: We have found that there were some 'performance blockers' in Mondays release but we will be releasing an update in the next 7-10 days that should fix this, and a couple of other sync-related issues.

Thanks for your time and for bearing with us - we are getting there :)

Gomcoite - yes it DOES support non-Nokia devices. We havn;t tested with other phones much yet but our expectation is that it will work with most that use MTP. We have tested with plenty of MP3 players such as Creatives, Sonys, Samsungs etc and the results have been very encouraging. So at the moment you CAN use this app to load playlists to your MP3 player (not iPods yet, Apple so thier best to make sure iTunes is your only option). If anyone is using a non-NOkia phone taht supports MTP I would be interested to hear how you get on connecting it!

I successfully used it to sync music with the LG KT610, a non-Nokia S60 device that I've been reviewing at www.symbian-guru.com. The phone was recognized (by name) and I was able to use it just as though it was an N95 or anything else.

Three comments so far:

1) my music collection is predominately classical. For Nokia Music to be useful, I need a "Composer" view, in addition to the Album view and Artist view. For classical music I'm unlikely to want to view by Artist (all tracks recorded by Berlin Phil. is of little use) but by composer is far more useful (all works by Mozart).

2) I agree with an earlier post that it doesn't handle compilation albums very well

3) generally my music collection has been ripped over a number of years using a number of different data sources for the tagging and its a mess. Some utility that does an intelligent clean up of tags is going to be needed before my collection and Nokia Music are thinking along the same wavelength.

Nicholas G

What about encoding from mp3 to aac/mp4? not only ripping from cd...
And of course, please some help on tagging!!

Slightly off topic, but related to this beta...

Can anyone tell me why, my when I connect my phone, Nokia Music lists all the phones current eACC+ tracks showing their cover art, where the N95-8GB media player does not?

If this is a bug is Nokia going to fix it in the next Firmware release? (If they are looking to fix the media player can they add a Now Playing feature that allows extra tracks to be added to the current music list while music is playing and consider adding gapless replay to the N95-8GB as well?) Maybe too much to ask...

A setting that allows you to chose what music to load and what o ignore on the device, such as podcasts, and ringtones.

A ability to remember the tracks on the mobile device to allow a much faster reconnection of the device once it has been scanned once by Nokia Music. Maybe a data file could be stored on the mobile device that contains all the track information so that Nokia Music displays the tracks much faster.

Scanning the phone for changes could then be done in the background, and only information on new tracks be transferred to to Nokia Music. This may even make BT sync a possibility.

I have some issues concerning the tagging of raw .aac files because it does not support it. Other nokia phones that do not support m4a/mp4 tags (like n80, n70, 3250, etc.) really needs a raw .aac file for them have a he-aac file with tags in it. I personally suggest that you used nero codec for encoding your files. I used nero encoder for my entire music collection @ 64kbps proving me the perfect quality at the lowest bitrate. Nokia encoding technology gives me headache because sometimes i hear some clicking and skips in the songs I encoded with it. Also when you encoded it in winamp, it gives you a poor quality... (Same Problem) I hope with the final release of nokia music, it will be fixed. :-)

Hi,

I want to resize the current-downloads panel -- it's tiny and I can't see the hundreds of tracks I'm currently downloading from the dozen albums or so that I've chosen to download. I'd like to resize the entire right panel too because I've got a very wide screen.

Why do some tracks refuse to download? "Dead Can Dance", "The Spider's Stratagem (remastered)" has been stuck for ages, and no matter how many times I ask it to try again, it fails.

The client crashes sometimes and I can't figure out why. I should be able to, as I'm a very senior software engineer specialising in both .NET and Java.

Why does it only download one track at a time? I've got a fast connection, and your servers don't seem to be struggling too much.

Why is there a long delay between downloads (measured in seconds)?

Why is the store unable to provide more information on its categories? New Releases can't be expanded to see more than 6 albums and the same is true of nearly all the other sections. Top Albums only and Top Singles are the only sections with a 'see more' link.

Why is there a "purchase music" link at the top when I'm a CWM subscriber? Why don't the"sign in" or "join now" buttons go away when I'm already a member who has already signed in?

Start to use Music client was reasonable easy, but not so easy as promised in instructions. The first disappoint was to realize that E90 was not in the list of supported devices. The client is quite easy to use and seems to work pretty well.
The 2nd disappointment was that when making CD copy of purchased music tracks, CD does not work with home CD Palyers, only with your PC due to wrong format. This can be hopefully solved just by selecting another format, but these issues are not so easy for ordinary man/woman on the street.