Nokia Beta Labs, Shaping the future together

I wont recommend it to all my friends right now. Only to people who are bit of geek though.

It still lacks File Manager(Which you can anyway open from My Computer), Video Manager, Calendar.

Also we need all(as in PC suite)& more options while syncing contacts,Calendar,photos, videos.

Also I see that you are using X6, recently announced device, How is that? Can I get it for Beta Test? :-)

Suyog

Hi suyog have you tried managing your device files via Windows Explorer? If you open "My Computer" from Windows and have Nokia device connected with Nokia Ovi Suite, you'll see your device there. If you open device icon, you should see both device memory and memory card and you can copy and transfer files to both directions. I think this provides enough File Manager functionality for the users?

It's great to hear, that so many people would like to see Calendar in Nokia Ovi Suite. Let's see, what we can do for that in future.

What comes to level of options in sync. Our vision is, that we want to make sync easy and non-cluttered. You should have your content in device, in Nokia Ovi Suite and in web effortlessly, same content accessible from anywhere. As we try to make Nokia Ovi Suite more simpler, we wanted to strip of confusing one-way sync options from contacts and calendar sync. We try to drive for the simplicity.

-- Samuli

Prelude
I am a business user, and since you state that this will replace Nokia PC-suite, this will ultimately hit me.
I installed the first beta, unstalled it quicky again,due to unstability
My comments will be from the point of a business user

Normally a beta version includes a program that is feature complete, It would say this is far from feature complete, compared to what Ovi-suite are to replace. I think the lack of a calender view brilliantly illustrates this.

1.
I don´t want to be connected to OVI.COM, during the installation you forced me to do this. Why is that?
Apparently this works fine in a logged out state.

2. Music
I am a business user. I don´t use music in my phone. Why does the start-screen have this music-window, and why can´t I remove this?

3. Photos
Nokia photos (apart from "lifeblog" )does not have the same functionality like Picasa or Microsoft Live Photos so I have choosen to use this instead. It is simply better, no offense.

4. Lifeblog / Timeline view in Ovi-Suite
With the thought in mind, do what you do best - Lifeblog was Unique in the photoarena, here was an arera where you actually were better than both Picasa and Live Photos. In the Beta I have 2 menu items Lifeblog 2007 and Lifeblog 2008. Both shows 0 items.
Well, maybe this is a bug. Can you tell me whether you intend to support the timeline view/lifeblog view in Ovi Suite? (notes,SMS, photos/videos)??

5. Memory hawk
Right now it is running with 326Mb of data + the other Background Nokia programs so ~ 400mb. This is simply too much.

6. Slow start
Much worse than Pc-suite in start-up

Well it is not all negative. The SMS view is better than PC-suite. :-)
Having said this, I am really sorry that don´t have anything more positive to say. I think you are forgetting that you actually have a lot of business users who doesn´t give a flying f... about Music, animations and Ovi-shop. We just want productivity tools.

So with your heading in mind "Would you recommend OVI-suite to your friends."
Not bloody likely, but I will be happy to recommend this to my enemies.

Keep up the interesting work. Gotta uninstall this again

Cheers,
Lars

Hi,

As mentioned by above users, i would like to inform this to my friends, once it satisfies what all other existing pc suites do right now. What i am expecting from NOS 2.0

Nokia OVI Suite 2.0 = Nokia PC Suite 7.1.30.9 + NSeries PC Suite 2.0 + Nokia OVI Suite 1.1.410 + Nokia Photos 1.6.4xx versions.

I am eagerly waiting for this application to get graduate from beta labs to know how it handles Nokia Lifeblogs/Nokia Photos data? How it organise my multimedia diary? Will it going to replace Nokia lifeblog/Nokia Photos, if yes, in the same manner how these two applications behave right now, Hurrah... I will recommend or compel all my friends to use this Suite....

I want all the functionalities of existing Nokia Software applications in one software ... i understand it may take a while to do so, i will wait.... But NOS 2.0 continue your great journey towards bringing all nokia software applications under one suite.... Best of LUCK

I would like to report serius issues about ram memory on my both computers, desktop and netbook.
First on Netbook. The installation left about half Gigabyte in temporary files in my C: drive, the problem is, the C: drive only has a 8 GB (netbook, remember?). On the reinstallation, left more half giga, do you understand where the problem is? It isn't at all, during the install process, the setup takes to itself almost all of the RAM memory, and i received a lot of times of missing ram messages. I have 1 GB on my netbook.
Now, when the Ovi Suite is on, its require amount of memory, almost all, especially when it is in main screen, changing the pictures. I will not go to talk when the synch is runnig, neither... No memory for other applications.

Hi andelson, you mentioned that installation leaves temporary files into C: drive. Could you reference, what folders / files you mean by temporary files?-- Samuli

Im really loving the OVI SUITE... i know that this isnt perfect yet, but i HOPE beta labs are not rushing things... PLEASE, make this as close to perfect as you can beta labs... dont rush it... just make sure it can cater to different people with different needs. Music Lovers and Business people alike..

As above user Cricfancy also expresses interest in knowing about LifeBlog/Photos Timeline intentions from you.
Do you consider Nokia Photos / Lifeblog porting to Ovi Suite to be "dead"? If you do not port, it sure would be nice to know.

It is cool you have made a betasite, where you want interaction with us users, but you may also expect questions from us that we expect to be answered from you guys. So in a way it is a huge responsibility to make an interactive betasite

Cheers,
Lars

I generally like the refreshed look of the application but it is still lagging severely behind PC Suite both in terms of features and ease of use. To me it seems that some functionality has been sacrificed in favor of eye candy, especially in the home screen.

From reading up on people's comments so far it sounds to me that a lot of people are not quite happy with the CoverFlow-style view for contacts and messaging. Personally, I would prefer to have the option to turn off this behavior in favor of simpler, list/details style view that lists my contacts (sortable vs the randomness that it is now), messages and even music in a simple view (maybe with a small icon next to each item). This will allow users to fit much more information on the home screen and actually make it useful as well as good looking.

Also like others have mentioned, for any serious business use, we need to have a calendar and maybe even some sort of email integration with email.nokia.com.

Last but not least, the present beta seems very sluggish and still buggy. I am having so many problems trying to sync my US N79 (which by the way is the buggiest Nokia phone I've ever owned and it has been 3 - 4 months now since the updated firmware got released for the EU markets but here in the US we're still stuck with this insanely buggy firmware).

@saylinen, I am aware of browsing device via My computer which i have mentioned in comments.

But I dont think having just dedicated file manager shortcut is so difficult, is it?

for any first time, non techie users, such small things make huge difference in experience.

Also I had reported few bugs/suggestions, no one seem to be listening to those.

Suyog

> So with your heading in mind "Would you recommend OVI-suite to your friends."
> Not bloody likely, but I will be happy to recommend this to my enemies.

:D !!!

I want to see more features of Nokia PC suite 7.1 to be included in NOS 2.0 :)

Normally for syncing my PIM data, i prefer Nokia 7.1 and for syncing my Photos & Videos i use Nokia Photos(PC Application). In Nokia PC suite 7.1, once sync is over i can see the logs of sync what are the data that are modified during my last sync... Modified entries can be seen using View last sync report, which is currently not there in BETA of NOS 2.0, In Nokia OVI Suite 1.1 also, there is sync report, but its not ease to that of PC Suite 7.1's, this may be because i am using Nokia PC suite from 6.85.14.1 to the current 7.1.30.9. If NOS 2.0 is going to replace all other Nokia PC Suites, there are lots of things to be included before it goes LIVE. NOS 2.0 should be very user-friendly as Nokia Phones, so that more and more people will start using this...But it will take some time.

if Ovi suite will work mush more fast, won't have so many bugs, will sync with the ovi account properly (and could see what info i have on the online account), maybe it could be a breakthrough software.

for now it's more like a new nice-looking version of pc-suite, a heavier and problematic version.

For now it's pretty much useless if you're not microsoft fanboy.

I think lars67 is right in a lot of points.

Even tho u wanna make thinsg simpler, you say it will replace PC Suite... saying that u need more functionality.

And I doubt very much that it would be too cluttered. Simply add an advanced Menu and there you go.

Add a functionality to let user choose what to display once u start the application....

Easy as that!!!!!

Excuse me, Samuli, it has now a long time, I only remember that I turned off the folder configuration to shows systems and hidden files and folders, then I found two installation folders of Ovi suite in somewhere inside of Documents and settings folder. I'm really sorry for don't know the right path.

Hi,

All photos in Nokia Photos are automatically visible in Nokia Ovi Suite (they use the same database). Messages are currently not imported, but we are considering that as there's been a lot of requests for the import functionality.

Cheers,
Teemu

It's nice, really complete and I like it a lot but has some serious issues to be solved before I can recommend to a less experienced user:

1. Consumes too much memory. For the sync service I liked best the previous way of a separate, less resource consuming and small Tray App. I think a good way to do this will be simplify the tray app as the sync service only and let the whole front end and configuration application be a separate app that is launched on a double click.

2. When it connects to the phone, it freezes up for a while (between 20-60 seconds).

3. Each time it connects to the phone, it pops up the whole screen to the front, instead of staying minimized on the tray, which is really annoying, specially if you are running a full screen app.

4. I've noted that occasionally (not too frequent), the app just closes, (no error, no message), leaving the NokiaMServer service using a lot of CPU.

5. As cricfancy stated, sometimes the logs are needed and should be present.

The rest is just neat and great!, I like the way that navigation works, I love the looks and the sync process seems to be really improved as some data that previously didn't work fine (sometimes contact images weren't synced right) are now fully synced.

Great Job Guys!!

Hi Samuli, I did a search again and found the path on my Desktop computer:
"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\OviInstallerCache"
the files are still there.

Teemu,
How do I interpret your answer below? I see you avoid calling it timeline or lifeblog, and only refer to messages.
Are you talking about the timeline view? And it seems you have devided not to include this, but are considering this, like you are considering the calender view in Ovi2

Would be nice with some straight answers :-)

Cheers,
Lars

Teemu >>
All photos in Nokia Photos are automatically visible in Nokia Ovi Suite (they use the same database). Messages are currently not imported, but we are considering that as there's been a lot of requests for the import functionality.

Since you are considering timeline view in Ovi-suite, would you consider making this better. After all this was one of the few things that actually were unique and you were the only one that had this.
And there is plenty room for improvement in order to have killer functionality, allow me to come with a few suggestions, some are pretty far out but still.

THE NAME
Keep the name. “LifeBlog” That illustrates pretty well what this is about.
Pictures- thumbnails of the user whom I send or receive an SMS/MMS from

CALL LOG
Import telephone calls.. “Peter called at 12:32 and then with a picture if this is in the contacts

NAVIGATION.
If I have used Nokia Maps for a route, why don’t´make a screen dump of the route into the timeline

ANSWERING SMS
The Ability of answering an SMS from the timeline

ADDITION AND DELETION OF CONTACTS
If a new contact is made in the phone, of course this contact in shown in the timeline

CALENDER ENTRIES
“Meeting with Tina” and a picture if in contacts

NOKIA SENSOR
Back in 2005 you had an application called Nokia Sensor
http://www.nokia-asia.com/get-support-and-software/download-software/nok...
I guess you were too early with this app. But if you revived this. Imagine if I had made contact with a babe a night out, through Sensor, then this info of course were imported into LifeBlog – After all I cannot remember anything the day after.
Maybe a far our example, but a good example of reuse of data that allready exists

Far far away from being usable...