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Tue, 2009-06-30 16:34 mbrett: Takes up too much memory
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I would not have an issue with this app if it were installing on my N95 8Gb, but memory appears to be a very valuable comodity in the N97. Seems rediculous that the phone has 32GB of Mass Storage Memory, but only 256MB of NAND Memory and 128MB of DRAM Memory.

This could mean that N97 users could be seeing the old "Insuffience Memory" warnings a lot.

Back to the review:

When I installed the app my memory reduced by c.7mb which is a lot when prior to install I only had 19.4MB free.

Looks like I need to do some serious housekeeping as the initial FW / SW supplied on the N97 is all installed in the Phone Memory. Maybe deleting all apps/widgets hat can be transfered to the Mass Storage Memory and re-insatlling them on the Mass Storage Memory could save me the hassle of running into single figues of megs of Phone Memory.

Looking into this further my N95 8Gb available memory is as follows:
Maximum User Storage 8 GB
Free Executable RAM Memory 90 MB
NAND Memory 256 MB
SDRAM Memory 128 MB

The noticeable differenece here is the extra 90MB of "Free Executable Memory". Maybe this makes the all importatnt difference on the N95 8Gb.

Further investigation identifies (via Active File) that the N97 drive sizes are as follows:

C: 73MB Phone Drive
D 43 MB (RAM)
E: 29.8GB (Mass Storage)
Z: UNKNOWN (ROM)

Using Active file on my N95 8GB identifies the following:

C: 133.8MB Phone Drive
D: 80.9MB (RAM)
E: 7.5GB (Mass Storage)
Y: 1.2MB
Z: UNKNOWN (ROM)

You must admit the size of the C: drive in the N97 is rediculous when the E: drive has been made so much bigger than that of the N95.

I realise this post does not talk that much about the application itself, but the main issue I have is that the application needs to be smaller as the N97 does not permit the user to install as much software as they like unlike the N95 8Gb. Sorry Tommi.

mbrett
N97 RM-505 FW 10.0.012 (Vodafone UK)
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015

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Tue, 2009-07-21 13:12 mbrett: Reclaiming C: drive sapce on N97
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Since my initial post I have managed to reclaim more than 10MB of space on my C: drive by file, app and widget shufling. For more information see the following post:

http://www.n97geeks.com/Software/1593-Save-over-10MB-of-C-drive-memory-o...

mbrett
N97 RM-505 FW 10.0.012 (Vodafone UK)
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015

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Tue, 2009-07-21 13:09 Mickyfin: Any idea how I go about
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Any idea how I go about uninstalling this java runtime from my N97? Its not showing anywhere in Application manager :(

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Tue, 2009-07-21 13:15 mbrett: On mine I'm sure that it
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On mine I'm sure that it appeared in Application manager. If it helps PM me the applications listed in your Application Manager over at www.N97geeks.com and I'll see if anything looks familiar). If not the only other option would be to install it again. Amybe that will make it appear in Application manager for uninstall.

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N97 RM-505 (Product Code: 0585262 (Vodafone UK)) FW 11.0.021
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015

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Tue, 2009-07-21 21:55 navio1973: To save other space on C:
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To save other space on C: you can move your sms on the mass memory E: For me it was good I saved 10 MB. To do it you have to go in message settings -> others.
When you choose E: the phone will ask you to save a copy: you have not to save it, in this way the phone will transfer all messages in E:.. If you have not this question, you have to do the following steps and try again:
1 plug the usb cable
2 select mass storage connection
3 go on E:\private\1000484b and delete the folder Mail2, Probably it will have another letter instead of E:\, I think with a file explorer it will easy find the right letter.
4 unplug the usb cable

It is a pitty that there is not partition magic for the n97, I would like to give half Giga from the 32 Gb :)

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Wed, 2009-07-22 07:54 mbrett: @naovio1973: Check out this for memory saving.
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http://www.n97geeks.com/Software/1593-Save-over-10MB-of-C-drive-memory-o...

One of my other homes.

mbrett
N97 RM-505 (Product Code: 0585262 (Vodafone UK)) FW 11.0.021
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015

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Thu, 2009-07-23 22:18 navio1973: @mbrett
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I read it before to write my comment #4, I found a pair of your tricks by myselft, you know when c: has less than 10 mb, I searched everything that was possible to eliminate.
After that I used the phone update software, another nokia bugged software (it does not reconize the softwares already installed on the phone) and unistalled some programs my phone crashed.

I was terrified, for some minutes, the only think that I saw on the screen was a white screen with the text "nokia" : the phone was blocked. At the end I found the combination of keys to make the hard reset on start (shift, space and backward) and I had to reinstall almost all software.
Now I have more than 40 Mb free.

Where do you find the time to write on all the forums? I counted at least 3, you are incredible! :)

Navio
Nokia E66-1 (218.04) FW 200.21.118
Nokia N95(01.01) V 31.0.017 RM 159
Nokia N97 V11.0.021 RM 505

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Thu, 2009-07-23 22:46 mbrett: My wife doesn''t find it quite so incredible, but thanks.
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My wife doesn''t find it quite so incredible, but thanks.

mbrett
N97 RM-505 (Product Code: 0585262 (Vodafone UK)) FW 11.0.021
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015

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Fri, 2009-07-24 16:38 navio1973: @mbrett
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This is not something new for me, I heard somewhere that wifes do not like their husbands spending too much time at the computer.
Ah, now I remember: at home! My wife told me that I spend too much time too. :)))
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Thu, 2009-07-30 11:47 davidmct: Using E as message store
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I tried this originally but everytime you use USB or an app like Office Suite it becomes inaccessible and your store is set back to C: An easy way of losing messages as you only get one shot at moving them on initial switch. Given up on this and just use C:.

Java engine works fine so far.

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