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 <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Bugreport: Image on the 2D barcode viewer icon is as per web shortcut by mbrett</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>The icon on the N97 Point and Find client for the 2D barcodes appears like the barcode on the Betalabs Point and Find Application page. I therefor installed Point and Find and pointed my N97 camera at the Point and Find application page on the Betalabs site only to be told "no data".</p>
<p>I was hoping that point and find was going to operate as a 2D barcode reader like the one destinctly missing from S60v5 Nokia Devices. Presently it appears not.</p>
<p>mbrett<br />
N97 RM-505 (Product Code: 0585262 (Vodafone UK)) FW 12.0.026<br />
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[The icon on the N97 Point and Find client for the 2D barcodes appears like the barcode on the Betalabs Point and Find Application page. I therefor installed Point and Find and pointed my N97 camera at the Point and Find application page on the Betalabs site only to be told "no data".

I was hoping that point and find was going to operate as a 2D barcode reader like the one destinctly missing from S60v5 Nokia Devices. Presently it appears not.

mbrett
N97 RM-505 (Product Code: 0585262 (Vodafone UK)) FW 12.0.026
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015
http:///www.twitter.com/MartynBrett
http://www.n97geeks.com]]></content:encoded>
 <link>http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/5118</link>
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 <pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: Why do you have these pages everywhere saying that my phone is not supported?&#039; by scmoatti</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi mspeare, and thank you for your feedback. Could you please clarify if you are browsing from a mobile phone, or from your desktop? If you go to pointandfind.nokia.com from your mobile, and we do not support your device, then yes, it's likely you'll get this message. To find out information about P&amp;F, I suggest to look up our site from your desktop.<br />
Hope this helps,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi mspeare, and thank you for your feedback. Could you please clarify if you are browsing from a mobile phone, or from your desktop? If you go to pointandfind.nokia.com from your mobile, and we do not support your device, then yes, it's likely you'll get this message. To find out information about P&amp;F, I suggest to look up our site from your desktop.<br />
Hope this helps,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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 <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Suggestion: Allow 20 uploads for free.. and then charge&#039; by scmoatti</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, and thank you for your good comments. Yes, we realize there isn't a whole lot of incentive for people who would like to tag at the moment... Please stay tuned, it's a matter of priorities as usual, but we are aware there's room for improvement here.<br />
Br and again, appreciate the input,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, and thank you for your good comments. Yes, we realize there isn't a whole lot of incentive for people who would like to tag at the moment... Please stay tuned, it's a matter of priorities as usual, but we are aware there's room for improvement here.<br />
Br and again, appreciate the input,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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 <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: How can you suggest we try Creating a World when . . .&#039; by scmoatti</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Thank you for your good feedback and suggestion on our business model. At the moment, our client is available for free to download. When you are in the City Guide experience, you can contribute content and it's free to do so.</p>
<p> We're asking for a subscription fee only when you decide to take the big leap and create your own experience on our platform. I understand you would like to be able to do this for free as well, however at the moment we do not offer this. Please stay tuned, I'll post on this blog if/when we decide to do so.</p>
<p>Br and again, please keep those suggestions coming,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Thank you for your good feedback and suggestion on our business model. At the moment, our client is available for free to download. When you are in the City Guide experience, you can contribute content and it's free to do so.</p>
<p> We're asking for a subscription fee only when you decide to take the big leap and create your own experience on our platform. I understand you would like to be able to do this for free as well, however at the moment we do not offer this. Please stay tuned, I'll post on this blog if/when we decide to do so.</p>
<p>Br and again, please keep those suggestions coming,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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 <link>http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/3075#comment-19289</link>
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 <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: client reporting&#039; by scmoatti</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi snowy, please share any specific feedback you'd like us to consider... Definitely, we're looking to improve the service and the client itself.<br />
Many thanks,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi snowy, please share any specific feedback you'd like us to consider... Definitely, we're looking to improve the service and the client itself.<br />
Many thanks,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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 <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: How can you suggest we try Creating a World when . . .&#039; by snowy</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>agreed. I wouldnt put a dime down on a beta. Ive given my time in return is good as cash.</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed. I wouldnt put a dime down on a beta. Ive given my time in return is good as cash.</p>
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 <pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Discussion: client reporting by snowy</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>are you looking for bugs on the client side ane suggestions reports or just looking into the service end. I ask this because there is room for improvement and correction.</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[are you looking for bugs on the client side ane suggestions reports or just looking into the service end. I ask this because there is room for improvement and correction.]]></content:encoded>
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 <pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: Device Support&#039; by snowy</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>please post over on the blog that fp2 devices are now supported. I found out the hard way. Thx.</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please post over on the blog that fp2 devices are now supported. I found out the hard way. Thx.</p>
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 <pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Suggestion: mixx it up with nokia maps&#039; by snowy</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>i second it. I tried using get directions but it uses google maps. I would like it to use ovi maps to navigate me to my destination.</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i second it. I tried using get directions but it uses google maps. I would like it to use ovi maps to navigate me to my destination.</p>
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 <link>http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/2264#comment-18072</link>
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 <pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: Will this Point and find come for 5800 XpressMusic???????&#039; by lucaspozzi</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm also anxiously waiting for that!<br />
Meanwhile, is there any version that works on the 5800?</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm also anxiously waiting for that!<br />
Meanwhile, is there any version that works on the 5800?</p>
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 <pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Review: *0* doesn&#039;t work on 82 and can&#039;t delete by teriz</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>I installed it, I click on the link, nothing happens. Can't delete the link. Can't find an install package. Stuck with worthlessness.</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[I installed it, I click on the link, nothing happens. Can't delete the link. Can't find an install package. Stuck with worthlessness.]]></content:encoded>
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 <pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Suggestion: Allow 20 uploads for free.. and then charge&#039; by mvoosten</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>Talking about uploads.. what would be the incentive or reward for end users to tag something anyway? Currently no options to add info to tags or modify/change them.<br />
I see great potential, just the options and business model needs to be cleared.</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about uploads.. what would be the incentive or reward for end users to tag something anyway? Currently no options to add info to tags or modify/change them.<br />
I see great potential, just the options and business model needs to be cleared.</p>
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 <link>http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/3088#comment-16740</link>
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 <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: How can you suggest we try Creating a World when . . .&#039; by mvoosten</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.. the whole idea of paying for a limited shared environment is maybe nice for commercial customers, but definately not for end users.<br />
Consider that you need your end users to build a trusted growing environment of tags and content, you will never achief this by asking a rediculous contribution for something that the public for the time being sees as a gimmick.</p>
<p>Also consider that the competition (read android based phones are miles ahead using augmented reality like browsers) regarding content and usuability.</p>
<p>I would expect (but could not try obviously) that when I tag something on my phone, I will be possible to edit and add information to those uploaded tags on the portal, creating a wiki like growing environment of interst points. Espesially in city mode.</p>
<p>As an example where you could get mony from this project would be something sililar as the ATM machine overlays you get from ING on the android right now. They would maybe pay to have their content delivered with nice ads, aditional ING office information etc.</p>
<p>But please, leave the contribution for end users that want to participate and help you mature this application and gain the momentum while you still can!</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.. the whole idea of paying for a limited shared environment is maybe nice for commercial customers, but definately not for end users.<br />
Consider that you need your end users to build a trusted growing environment of tags and content, you will never achief this by asking a rediculous contribution for something that the public for the time being sees as a gimmick.</p>
<p>Also consider that the competition (read android based phones are miles ahead using augmented reality like browsers) regarding content and usuability.</p>
<p>I would expect (but could not try obviously) that when I tag something on my phone, I will be possible to edit and add information to those uploaded tags on the portal, creating a wiki like growing environment of interst points. Espesially in city mode.</p>
<p>As an example where you could get mony from this project would be something sililar as the ATM machine overlays you get from ING on the android right now. They would maybe pay to have their content delivered with nice ads, aditional ING office information etc.</p>
<p>But please, leave the contribution for end users that want to participate and help you mature this application and gain the momentum while you still can!</p>
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 <pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: Will this Point and find come for 5800 XpressMusic???????&#039; by speedgrapher</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>waiting for it, too</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waiting for it, too</p>
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 <link>http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/2690#comment-16482</link>
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 <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Discussion: Why do you have these pages everywhere saying that my phone is not supported? by mspeare</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm browsing the point and find blog and almost every link I try to look at brings up a screen telling me that my phone is not currently supported. I think this is iriitating for three reasons </p>
<p>1 I am just looking for information about the app out of curiosity.</p>
<p> 2 I thought a beta was supposed to be tested on as many plateforms as possible not limmited to a few.</p>
<p> 3 my phone IS supported I installed it on my e90 communicator through ovi and it works fine ( only in portrait mode i.e. The PDA part closed)</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm browsing the point and find blog and almost every link I try to look at brings up a screen telling me that my phone is not currently supported. I think this is iriitating for three reasons 

1 I am just looking for information about the app out of curiosity.

 2 I thought a beta was supposed to be tested on as many plateforms as possible not limmited to a few.

 3 my phone IS supported I installed it on my e90 communicator through ovi and it works fine ( only in portrait mode i.e. The PDA part closed)

As all I get is a not supported screen I can't add new worlds or even access the help!]]></content:encoded>
 <link>http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/3750</link>
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 <pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: How can you suggest we try Creating a World when . . .&#039; by iivo</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>i was very excited about both p&amp;f and it's potential but i will never pay to try out a beta product, as i see it im helping you out for free so asking me to pay to do that is rather silly. That u ask for an intial. Payment and clearly state that the free test service may end at any given time with the option of upgrading is fair enough though. Anyway for me ill keep providing feedback to nokia's free betas &amp; exprimental project and i do it for free. Ofcourse wont say no if you choose to pay me though its optional =)-- N95 31.0.0.17 | N97 11.0.0.21 ---</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was very excited about both p&amp;f and it's potential but i will never pay to try out a beta product, as i see it im helping you out for free so asking me to pay to do that is rather silly. That u ask for an intial. Payment and clearly state that the free test service may end at any given time with the option of upgrading is fair enough though. Anyway for me ill keep providing feedback to nokia's free betas &amp; exprimental project and i do it for free. Ofcourse wont say no if you choose to pay me though its optional =)-- N95 31.0.0.17 | N97 11.0.0.21 ---</p>
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 <link>http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/3075#comment-16069</link>
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 <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: Will this Point and find come for 5800 XpressMusic???????&#039; by singh_surpreet</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks i shall be waiting For Ur post...</p>
<p>Surpreet</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks i shall be waiting For Ur post...</p>
<p>Surpreet</p>
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 <link>http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/2690#comment-15916</link>
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 <pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Review: *0* No joy by milhouse</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>I downloaded this after seeing a similar app on my friend's iPhone, and am so disappointed with the Nokia version.  With the iPhone app, he launched it, it gave a clear indication on screen where a barcode should be, and we scanned the barcodes of three things on my deskand the app took me straight to reviews online, and purchase opportunities.</p>
<p>Downloaded Point and Find, and:</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[I downloaded this after seeing a similar app on my friend's iPhone, and am so disappointed with the Nokia version.  With the iPhone app, he launched it, it gave a clear indication on screen where a barcode should be, and we scanned the barcodes of three things on my deskand the app took me straight to reviews online, and purchase opportunities.

Downloaded Point and Find, and:
- It asks me for "Movies" or "Shopping".  Huh?  Not particularly intuitive if I just want to scan a barcode.  So I select shopping and try three different CD barcodes and three different book barcodes.  Nothing.  Irritatingly, the paid advert works.
- There isn't an indication onscreen of where the barcode should be.  I presumed "ensure the barcode is as large in the photo window as possible, but have since seen posts in this forum that say it should be about a third of the width of the photo window?
- Does the iPhone app use some other onlne service to recognise UPC codes?  The likelihood that the three items I chose from my desk would be in a database that someone had to actively maintain seems low.  Not as low as the likelihood than anything I scan in P&F is recognised, though.
- It keeps defaulting to the wrong access point, which I'm sure doesn't help.
- How about some textual clues onscreen as to what the app is doing?
- The app spends so long trying to scan barcodes that the screen backlight switches off before it successfully scans anything.

Has anyone managed to succesfully scan any of the first ten items they tried?

This app would be so useful if you could scan a bar code of an item you are interested in and e taken to a kelkoo search, or an online review site.  That is dependent on it recognising something.  Ever.]]></content:encoded>
 <link>http://betalabs.nokia.com/forum/topic/3635</link>
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 <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: Will this Point and find come for 5800 XpressMusic???????&#039; by mbrett</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>I look forward to seeing your post.</p>
<p>mbrett<br />
N97 RM-505 FW 10.0.012 (Vodafone UK)<br />
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>I look forward to seeing your post.</p>
<p>mbrett<br />
N97 RM-505 FW 10.0.012 (Vodafone UK)<br />
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015</p>
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 <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 07:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Comment to &#039;Discussion: Will this Point and find come for 5800 XpressMusic???????&#039; by scmoatti</title>
 <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi mbrett, I will push a post on this forum when P&amp;F is live on S60 5.0 devices. Sorry I cannot give you more details on this yet.</p>
<p>Br,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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 <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi mbrett, I will push a post on this forum when P&amp;F is live on S60 5.0 devices. Sorry I cannot give you more details on this yet.</p>
<p>Br,<br />
SC<br />
P&amp;F team</p>
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